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[Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <miguelangel@xxxxxxx>]

2012/11/21 Tomé Veríssimo <tomeverissimo@xxxxxxxxx>

> Assembly sounds good too! Slowly, we're getting to a one click PCB
> solution.  :)
>
> A solution to reduce the complexity of the association between components
> and part numbers could be to keep the part number in the component itself.
>
> It may sound a bit unorthodox, but let me try to explain how I use the
> libraries:
>
>
Reading :)


> 1. I have one component in the library for each component in «real life»
> (for example, I have one component 0R_0603, one 100R_0603, one 100R_0805,
> and so on). This increases the number of components in the libraries,
> because I don't use the Value field, but I found it way faster to place
> components than to place a component and change its value every time. And
> there's also another upside with this approach: I can associate each
> component to a manufacturer, a manufacturer part number, a supplier and a
> supplier part number, using its user fields;
>

This is what al**um is doing in their subscription vault now, it's plenty
of pre-filled resistor components with all the comercially available values
and footprint sizes (well not all but must common footprints).


>
> 2. Then, when I make a schematic, I run a python script on the schematic
> folder which will get all the components in my central library and collects
> all the instances of every component in the schematic. Then, this script
> outputs, for every supplier, the BOM (it even outputs on different formats,
> depending on the supplier, so I can just copy the content of the output
> file, go to Farnell website, for example, paste it, and close the order).
>

Or you can keep the IDs of several component distributors (as long as they
keep subscription to KiCad, for example.. -other idea-)  in special fields
of the components, so you can get the "listing for element14, listing for
mouser, listing for digikey, listing for xxxx...".


>
> With this approach, it's rather easy to implement this functionality.
>



> What about the S-expression libraries? Would it become easier to implement
> this, with the new library and component formats?
>

Definitely, the will be  one of the bricks needed to build all this at the
right moment :-)


>
> Tomé
>
> Greetings!! :)


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> On 21 November 2012 21:55, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <miguelangel@xxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> It sounds good too, more complex , but good,
>>
>> Another more option is PCB Assembly (get quote to get your pcb
>> manufactured, prototype or production),
>>
>>
>>
>> Miguel Angel Ajo
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>> On 21/11/2012, at 22:43, Tomé Veríssimo <tomeverissimo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> To me, it sounds good, but probably I'm pretty naïve on these subjects.
>>
>> In case this idea is supported, let me throw some cards on the table as
>> well: same thing for component suppliers. One button BOM -> component
>> order, with real time prices. Hardest part, I believe, would be associating
>> schematic components and supplier part numbers.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tomé
>>
>>
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>>
>> On 21 November 2012 20:38, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <miguelangel@xxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It could be a "brain fart", but I wanted to share it before I forget,
>>> and see what you think,
>>>
>>>     Ok, just imagine, that we arranged a server for KiCad, that had a
>>> pool of PCB manufacturers, great,
>>> then users in KiCad, at "manufacture time" could have access to this
>>> pool right from KiCad, easily, instantly quoted
>>> on parameters provided by each manufacturer. Nice feature for all users.
>>>
>>>     Then, how to monetize it, and gather funds to keep KiCad getting
>>> developed where we want it:
>>>
>>>       Option A): charge a % from the manufacturer, harder to control, as
>>> we must know that the transaction happened correctly.
>>>
>>>       Option B): let the PCB manufacturer providers pay monthly (auction
>>> style) to go up in the list.
>>>
>>>
>>>       What do you think about it?
>>>
>>>
>>>     Greetings!, mike
>>>
>>> Miguel Angel Ajo
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