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[Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Aug 31, 2013 5:40 PM, "Brian Sidebotham" <brian.sidebotham@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> On 31 August 2013 22:06, Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I just upgraded to openssl 1.0.1e, and am now building the DLL fine in
a-mingw-us,
>> > although I think this 'e' version had nothing to do with this.  Seems
the Configure script
>> > is picky about sequence of arguments.
>> >
>> >
>> > We now need to package the openssl DLL goodies so they can flow into a
situation where
>> > windows builders of GITHUB_PLUGIN can use those.
>> >
>>
>> Come to think of it, I don't know how I am going to find the openssl
headers on Windows
>> for the GITHUB plugin.  Certainly we cannot expect them to flow with a
KiCad installation.
>>
>> Maybe we will simply need to reproduce the ExternalProject_Add() in the
GITHUB plugin
>> CMakeFile, conditioned on Windows.   Gosh yes, what was I thinking?
>>
>>
>> How you guys stay on Windows is beyond me.   The package management
concept has long been
>> an established concept.  But "add/remove programs" is a joke by
comparison.
>>
>>
>> Then, you have competing C++ compilers so the story would have be told
in duplicate
>> anyways.  I don't expect MSVC to be around much longer, given that it
does not generate
>> revenue (not like the Android patent blackmailing is).    And Android is
showing up
>> everywhere now, including wrist watches.  I give MSVC about another 6
years max.
>>
>>
>> How good can that be for your character, knowing that most of your
revenue is coming from
>> patent blackmail?  Maybe Mr. B is retiring because of that.  (Note I am
assuming he has
>> that much quality of character.)
>>
>> You hear that New Zealand just outlawed software patents?  Call your
representatives
>> please.  It will take a lot of voices to drown out the voice from
Microsoft, which as I
>> mentioned, now gets a lot of patent revenue from Android OEMs, who are
not strong enough
>> to fight back.
>
>
> Yes, I thought about the header/dependency situation for SSL after your
previous email. I understand your frustration, believe me!
>
> Perhaps Apple will stop suing people for making black boxes without their
permission, or charging people for manufacturing a bluetooth device that is
to connect to one of their devices too. But it'll never happen. The cogs
will keep turning and we'll have to sort the crap out.
>
> With regards to the compiler situation; As much as I don't really
appreciate MSVC, the execution speed differential of GCC (with -O2
optimisations) and MSVC compiled wxWidgets samples is incredible. MSVC wins
by an order of magnitude, especially for start-up times. I wanted to
investigate the ELF header information. Apparently GCC can be a bit overly
verbose with regards to ELF information which can slow load times
significantly.
>

The code is relocatable.  Maybe it has been prerelocated.

We can stop talking about msvc now.

Its been banned, and for that I paid for a-mingw-us development.

So really I don't want to hear about it.


> Anyway, I'm kind of glad to hear the scripting window is not uniquely
broken on Windows builds. In that case, I can forget about fixing it before
releasing scripting through KiCad-Winbuilder. So I can get on and release
that ASAP then. :)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Brian.