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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

I just pushed the fix for this (commit bf44d394).  The project linked
below mapped 100% without issue.  I did move the final rescue to only be
performed if the user runs the remapper.  If the user closes the dialog
without remapping, no project files are changed.  If you find any other
issues, please let me know.

On 1/3/2018 7:45 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> FYI, I found a remapping issue on windows only which I broke when
> attempting to resolve the symlink issue on posix systems.  I should have
> a fix soon.  Sorry about the issues.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 1/3/2018 4:50 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>> Please attempt to not derail a thread. This thread is about making the
>> default canvas default or not about remapping.
>>
>> About remapping it is much more helpful if you create a bug report and
>> include a project to test against.
>>
>> Den 3. jan. 2018 10.23 AM skrev "André S." <list.dev.kicad@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:list.dev.kicad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     ok, I downloaded and installed the latest nightly.
>>     What a nightmare. :D
>>     I tried to open my schematic. It told me that it will be transferred
>>     to the new format and also showed a rescue dialog.
>>     It tries to map the symbols to the symbol library table. Afterwards
>>     it could not find the symbols in the (new) symbol lib table and
>>     therefore all symbols were broken. (This may be due to the fact that
>>     the nightly comes without libraries? I installed the nightly in a
>>     fresh directory, not the directory of 4.0.7.)
>>     I hope there will be a test for the release version before roll-out
>>     (Release Candidate) so that such issues are addressed?
>>
>>     The PCB editor still shows a white screen when switching to Cairo,
>>     but definitely for a shorter time(1..2 seconds).
>>     Each canvas renders the texts differently.
>>     'G' works now in OpenGL/Cairo, but differently than in Legacy (moves
>>     connection point of segments vs. whole segment). 'G' in OpenGL acts
>>     like 'M' in Legacy.
>>     'D' works in Legacy, but does not stop at 90° like in OpenGL when
>>     dragging a 45° bend segment. When moving further than 90° distance
>>     it draws crossing lines and expands the segment.
>>
>>     Component Values are not displayed regardless of canvas, even Legacy
>>     does not show them any more.
>>     Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1741015
>>     <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1741015>
>>
>>     *Observations*: Some icons have changed, most I like but not all.
>>     Symbol Editor Icon is way to busy, too much color where not needed.
>>     Same for Library Editor icon. Removing the background color/pattern
>>     would help a lot.
>>     I found the old Annotation icon more logical, it told in one picture
>>     what it does. The new one may be an editor icon for all it shows.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>       André
>>
>>     PS: I appreciate all the improvements, even if my comments may sound
>>     too negatively. ;)
>>     e.g. the new options for graphical lines in the schematics. Useful
>>     addition there would be to have an option to set the default for
>>     this (type and color). :)
>>
>>     Am 2018-01-02 <tel:20%2018%2001%2002> um 18:28 schrieb José Ignacio:
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:18 AM, André S.
>>>     <list.dev.kicad@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:list.dev.kicad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>     wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>         I want to add from a users view:
>>>         In the current KiCad 4.0.7 (Windows 64 bit) you can't drag
>>>         traces in OpenGL/Cairo, only in legacy. (With this I mean:
>>>         move a segment of a trace and it stays attached to the other
>>>         segments of the trace (Hotkey: 'G')).
>>>         Hotkey 'M' moves segments in OpenGL but moves 'connections' in
>>>         Legacy (segments stay connected).
>>>         More often than not I need the behaviour of Legacy and not
>>>         that of the OpenGL canvas.
>>>
>>>     In GAL the key to move connections is D, which allows you to drag
>>>     traces using the push and shove algorithm. Why is it this not G? I
>>>     have no idea.
>>>      
>>>
>>>         Values are not displayed in OpenGL/Cairo, only in Legacy.
>>>
>>>
>>>     That is odd, is there a bug report for that?
>>>      
>>>
>>>         And "transparency" is better in Legacy. With only 2 layers you
>>>         can see the traces on the bottom layer better than in
>>>         OpenGL/Cairo.
>>>
>>>
>>>     This was broken recently when the RGBA setting was added. It used
>>>     to be that all layers would have 80% transparency by default. this
>>>     probably should be fixed again, I personally prefer to set the
>>>     transparency even lower for inner layers too. This is all user
>>>     settable in the nightlies.
>>>      
>>>
>>>
>>>         Just for this few reasons I still use Legacy more often than
>>>         OpenGL when modifying an existing PCB design.
>>>
>>>         From my view OpenGL is nice because you can manipulate single
>>>         items (segments of traces) better/more comfortably than in
>>>         Legacy. And initial layout work feels smoother.
>>>
>>>         Just my 2 cents. :)
>>>
>>>         Happy new year,
>>>           André
>>>
>>>         PS: as a side note: When I switch from "Standard/Legacy" or
>>>         OpenGL to Cairo the PCB view goes white and only after a few
>>>         seconds displays the PCB. In the other direction there is no
>>>         delay.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Performance was greatly improved in GAL in the latest nightlies,
>>>     did you try them or just the GAL as seen in 4.0.7?
>>>      
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Am 2017-12-31 <tel:20%2017%2012%2031> um 22:28 schrieb Jon Evans:
>>>>         For your consideration, a patch is attached that implements
>>>>         the above.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>         <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             I think that getting automatic OpenGL detection and
>>>>             recovery working for 5.0 might be ambitious.
>>>>             Maybe Chris can detail what the next steps are for his
>>>>             approach there, but in case we want to push that to a
>>>>             later release, here's what I propose:
>>>>
>>>>             1) Rename the View menu options based on my proposal
>>>>             "Legacy", "Modern (Accelerated)", "Modern (Fallback)"
>>>>             2) Change PCB_BASE_FRAME::SwitchCanvas to save the canvas
>>>>             config value after calling UseGalCanvas() rather than before.
>>>>             3) Show a first-run dialog like the mockup in my earlier
>>>>             email, IF canvas is not OpenGL and the dialog has not
>>>>             been shown before
>>>>             44) If user clicks "yes" in the first run dialog, then:
>>>>                 (a) set the config value to prevent the dialog from
>>>>             showing again,
>>>>                 (b) Set the canvas config setting to Cairo (but don't
>>>>             switch the GAL to Cairo), then
>>>>                 (c) switch to OpenGL canvas using SwitchCanvas()
>>>>
>>>>             That way, if the app crashes in step 4c, it should come
>>>>             back up as Cairo on the next launch (assuming we crash
>>>>             right away when trying to set up the canvas)
>>>>
>>>>             Any concerns with the above?
>>>>
>>>>             -Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Jeff Young
>>>>             <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 +1
>>>>
>>>>                 No menu items.  Just a checkbox for Enable Hardware
>>>>                 Acceleration in Preferences.
>>>>
>>>>>                 On 31 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Andy Peters
>>>>>                 <devel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>                 - In the case of graphics glitches, inform the
>>>>>>                 users in the FAQ/Manual
>>>>>>                 that they can fall back to software renderer in the
>>>>>>                 View menu.
>>>>>>                 - Don't use the term 'canvas' or 'view'. Just
>>>>>>                 'Enable HW acceleration’.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I like that. The fewer technical/programmer terms,
>>>>>                 the better.
>>>>
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