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[Yury Tello <ytello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jeff, Usually in LATAM there are  between 2 and 3 trainees in the
official trainings, and these 30% cover International traveling.

Best Regards


2014-03-01 2:49 GMT-05:00 jeff.wang <jeff@xxxxxxxxx>:

> Tello,
>
>    Interesting numbers, thank you for sharing.
>
>    But, 30% traveling expenses , why it cost so much ?
>
> ------------------
> Jeff Wang |  jeff@xxxxxxxxx | 18016291663 |02158980787
> @OpenERP_Jeff "As simple as possible, As complex asneeded"
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> Maintainer of Open ERP china community
> http://www.openerp-china.org
>
>
>
> ------------------ Original ------------------
> *From: * "Yury Tello";<ytello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> *Date: * Sat, Mar 1, 2014 03:20 AM
> *To: * "Fabien Pinckaers"<fp@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "
> openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"<
> openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> *Subject: * Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract
> value...
>
> Hi Fabien, sorry for late reply, i was out of my office onlast days, but i
> hope this reply helps to you and OpenERP SA tomake better business
> relations with partners, customers andcommunity.
>
> First, we (Cubic ERP S.A.C.) only sell hours, we don'tsell software
> because it is free, then we sell hours of consulting(funcional, technical
> and training) to our customers.
>
> Then to start this business we first invest on education, likea MBA and
> others, to us consultants. Then we invest paying toOpenERP SA the
> partnership and training (about USD$6000) and toinitiate the CTP contract
> prepay about USD$6500 more, finally, wepay 2 years more of partnership and
> bought one OEE.
>
> About the revenues for sell OEE i get 10%, and for sellcourses i get about
> 50% minus the traveling expenses. I not includeon this the hours sold
> because to deliver this service i not needthe OpenERP SA support, and the
> investment to make or hire aconsultant is outside of scope of OpenERP SA,
> noted please, wedon't consume the 2 support hours offered on the
> partnershipcontract because we save this for a critical situations.
>
> About OEE earnings this is not good because in 3 years we onlysold a OEE
> of 5 users.
>
> About the courses:
> - 1st year we sold all prepaid trainings (good)
> - 2nd year we sold training over the target of CTP Contract(very good)
> - 3th year OpenERP SA started sold the online trainings, thenwe sold few
> training and not achieve the target (very bad)
>
> Summary:
> - I invest on partnership an courses: about USD$12000 paid toOpenERP SA
> - I got 10% for sold OEE (OpenERP SA earn 90%)
> - I got about 20% for sold trainings (OpenERP SA earn only50%, 30%
> traveling expenses)
>
> Make your maths...
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
>
> 2014-02-24 4:43 GMT-05:00 Fabien Pinckaers<fp@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> > Dear Erick, from my point of view, OpenERP SAneed change the way of
>> > make business, to let to their partners earn money too. Thisis very
>> > difficult because the head of OpenERP SA prove to beautocratic. An
>>
>> > example of this show on http://v6.openerp.com/node/1311 slide 9 , that
>> > says: about the OEE partner prices, "Any extra user,adobe the purchased
>>
>> > contract, will be charged full price without discount, Theonly
>> > possibility to upgrade your contract is at renewaldate".
>>
>> Hello Yuri,
>>
>> I would be very interested to know:
>> - How much total revenue do you do on OpenERP ?
>> - How much revenue do you do for OpenERP SA ?
>>
>> If you don't want to disclose your numbers, may be just a ratiobetween
>> your "revenue for OpenERP SA" / "Total Revenue youdo on OpenERP".
>>
>>
>> This would help me to understand if the revenue sharing is fair ornot.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> > Then the first step is change of mind from one-to-win toall-to-win.
>> >
>> > Best Regards
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-02-22 0:08 GMT-05:00 Eric Caudal <eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > <mailto:eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>> >
>> > Hi OpenERP Partners,
>> > There has been some questioning about the OpenERPEnterprise
>> > Contract after some of Fabien's email and there is areal
>> > debate/questioning about the value that this contract bringsto the
>> > final customer.
>> >
>> > Current value is difficult to sell and lies basically (atleast in
>> > my current sales experience) on the migration and somehow onthe bug
>>
>> > fixing. Other advantages are more difficult to handle:
>> > - Private license has been a reason for me but I think this isvery
>> > specific to some customers.
>> > - There are those 2 hours support but this is few and not
>> > proportional to the number of users ...
>> > - The other reasons (automatic update and security alerts)seems to
>>
>> > me accessories and not decision-makers
>> >
>> > So now the question would be what would bring additional valueto
>> > the contract that would really interest the end customer?
>> >
>> > I am thinking about the following advantages that could beadded to
>>
>> > the current package (for same price):
>> > - one certification voucher
>> > - one access to a dashboard to check one or several OpenERPinstance
>> > health (with statistics and alert if down)
>> > - specific Android application, only available if a validcontract
>> > is up (could be business oriented or support oriented)
>> >
>> > What about you?
>> > --
>> >
>> > Eric Caudal
>> > /CEO/
>> > --
>> > *Elico Corporation, Shanghai branch
>> > /OpenERP Premium Certified Training Partner/ *
>> > Cell: + 86 186 2136 1670
>> > Office: + 86 21 6211 8017/27/37
>> > Skype: elico.corp
>> > eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > http://www.elico-corp.com
>> >
>> > Elico Corp
>> >
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Yury Tello Canchapoma
TeraData SAC
http://www.teradata.com.pe
Telecomunicaciones, Software & Seguridad

Telef.:(+51 1) 5362222 anexo 20
Av. Arenales 395 Of. 507 - Lima 1 - Peru