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Message #00009
Re: Joining openshot
If you want I can do the UI myself and put together something. I dont
see the point in using libglade you can do the new stuff using gtk
builder and not have to redo code. I think the fact that I would like
integration means that id be quite a help. The fact of the matter is
that on the desktop you have to integrate otherwise it looks out of
place and people might not like the UI. Its just I see the makings of a
good program and it really doesnt look too bad its just it sticks out
like a sore thumb. I know its your project Jonathan its just you have to
accept help when its offered. Ill go ahead and do a screen and report
back with my design ideas for the UI using the current functionality and
have something to show you in about a week.
On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 16:52 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> Shane,
> Thanks for your enthusiasm. I am working really hard toward a release
> of OpenShot. We have many important tasks that lie ahead of us.
> While I appreciate the UI concerns and ideas, I can't justify spending
> time reworking the themes, buttons, and timeline.
>
> We would love for you to help out with OpenShot, but we have to
> determine in what capacity you want to help us, and are able to help
> us. If you are mainly interested in helping with the User Interface,
> then we have a few screens which need to be worked up in glade. Some
> specifications are located in blueprints on LaunchPad (although many
> of the details still needs to be determined).
>
> 1) Export Video Screen
> 2) Key-Framing Screen
> 3) Various Property Screens
>
> For now, OpenShot will continue to use libGlade, until our 1.0
> release. At that point I would be comfortable migrating to
> Gtk.Builder, and re-working some of the existing UIs.
>
> If you are set on using Gtk.Builder and working on a tightly
> integrated GTK theme project, then maybe OpenShot isn't the right
> fit... at least right now. If any of these other tasks sound
> interesting, we would appreciate the help.
>
> Thanks,
> -Jonathan
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Shane Fagan
> <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sorry for the spam but also instead of using fast forward and
> rewind
> buttons you could use a seek bar like in rhythmbox and totem
> etc..
> And then there would be those small fast forward and rewind
> buttons at
> each end of the seek bar.
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 19:11 +0100, Shane Fagan wrote:
> > Oh and just to say here is the Gnome roadmap
> > http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven
> > It has the roadmap that they are using to eventually remove
> libglade
> > from gnome-desktop
> > On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:23 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> > > Interesting. I think the Gtk.Builder sounds like a good
> direction for
> > > the future of the project, but it's going to completely
> derail us
> > > right now if we attempt to switch. We use libGlade
> extensively in
> > > OpenShot, and even base our screen classes on a
> "SimpleGladeApp" base
> > > class.
> > >
> > > Since the end result of libGlade and gtk.Builder is just a
> GTK window
> > > with widgets, we should be able to make the same UI with
> both. I'll
> > > add a blueprint to LaunchPad about the gtk.Builder for a
> future
> > > version.
> > >
> > > As far as the UI not integrating well into Ubuntu, that is
> true. It
> > > supports GTK themes, but none of our button images or the
> timeline
> > > graphics match the theme. GTK doesn't have generic button
> icons for
> > > most of the buttons in OpenShot. However, we did make
> OpenShot
> > > theme-able, and we could make a more Ubuntu-friendly
> theme. Just
> > > remember, in Oct 2009 this year, Ubuntu is dumping their
> orange and
> > > brown interface. Not sure what color they are moving
> toward however.
> > >
> > > Just to keep everything in perspective, I think OpenShot
> is already a
> > > much better looking application than any of our competing
> apps in this
> > > category. Only a few video editors are based in GTK, and
> they are
> > > ugly and blocky looking. Mainly due to their timeline
> being drawn by
> > > rectangles.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, the features we need to have ASAP are:
> > >
> > > 1) transitions
> > > 2) filters
> > > 3) titling
> > > 4) key-framing
> > > 5) video export
> > >
> > > And lastly, figure out how the heck to package this baby
> up so it
> > > works on most Linux distributions. That will probably be
> the hardest
> > > task of all.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > -Jonathan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Shane Fagan
> > > <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > GTK builder has replaced it. The Gnome guys have
> officially
> > > called it
> > > deprecated.
> > >
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2009-May/msg00189.html
> > >
> > > The problem I see with the UI is it doesnt
> integrate well. I
> > > use ubuntu
> > > with the default theme and it looks really out of
> place.
> > > Almost like it
> > > should be a windows app not a gnome one. Its
> mainly because of
> > > the
> > > blueness.
> > >
> > > Ill draw up some mockups of what I think it could
> look like.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 09:23 -0500, Jonathan Thomas
> wrote:
> > > > Shane,
> > > >
> > > > Where did you read that glade was deprecated?
> They just
> > > released a
> > > > new version in March / Apr 2009. If that's
> true, please
> > > show me where
> > > > you read that. If we didn't use Glade to design
> the
> > > interface, what
> > > > are you suggesting? OpenShot is a GTK app, and
> based on my
> > > > experience, Glade is the #1 easiest way
> interfaces are
> > > created for
> > > > GTK.
> > > >
> > > > We are always open to UI suggestions, Logo
> suggestions, and
> > > just about
> > > > any other suggestion. But why do you feel it's
> necessary to
> > > make a
> > > > make a new UI? I'm trying to have an open-mind,
> but that
> > > seems like
> > > > it would be 2 steps backwards.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, we have plenty of ideas and
> features that
> > > need to be
> > > > developed. I would recommend working with Andy
> and me to
> > > identify the
> > > > best feature that makes sense for your skill
> set. If you
> > > want to
> > > > focus on the UI, then I would recommend working
> on mock-ups
> > > of your
> > > > ideas, and send them to this mailing list for
> feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > -Jonathan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Shane Fagan
> > > > <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > There is a few things I want to address
> too before I
> > > get
> > > > started. Ill
> > > > make a new UI if you dont mind. Glade is
> deprecated,
> > > the UI
> > > > isnt
> > > > integrated well and the logo and overall
> look and
> > > feel are
> > > > slightly off.
> > > > By the look of the code its a very well
> thought out
> > > program so
> > > > im
> > > > looking forward to the challenge.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Shane
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 23:18 -0500,
> Jonathan Thomas
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Shane, thanks for joining our team! I
> can
> > > certainly use
> > > > your help.
> > > > > Before you jump in and start coding, I
> have a few
> > > > suggestions:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Be sure to check out the OpenShot
> Blog... to
> > > stay
> > > > up-to-date on all
> > > > > the happenings (www.OpenShotVideo.com)
> > > > > 2) Download the Build Wizard and be
> sure that
> > > OpenShot works
> > > > on your
> > > > > Ubuntu setup
> > > > > 3) Take a look at the code, play
> around with the
> > > UI and get
> > > > a feel for
> > > > > everything
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have any trouble getting
> OpenShot to run,
> > > just let me
> > > > know.
> > > > > Once you are ready to start coding,
> there are a
> > > ton of
> > > > different
> > > > > things you could help out with. We
> can discuss
> > > that once
> > > > you are
> > > > > ready.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > -Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Shane
> Fagan
> > > > > <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > My name is Shane Fagan. Im a
> software
> > > development
> > > > student in
> > > > > college I
> > > > > havent been programming in
> python for too
> > > long but
> > > > id like to
> > > > > help out.
> > > > > My background is java. I can
> help out with
> > > UI and
> > > > some other
> > > > > functionality. I really see
> the need for a
> > > good
> > > > video editor
> > > > > because at
> > > > > the moment they are all fairly
> hard to
> > > use. Anyhow
> > > > get back to
> > > > > me on
> > > > > where I can help and ill get
> developing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Shane_Fagan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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