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Okay i have this version Operationnelle on this system too. I should find
why Bazaar Explorer don't work well.
I have created a new project with some files of my Nexus and actually, the
right clic on the main project tree nothing works.
Another thing : is it something have being changed on the layout in the
right clic of the clip. I have done a layout with 4 clips and i have now a
black vertical bar in the middle (see screenshot join) (and not horisontal
?) that i wasn't having yet.
And always a little problem with the clip created by Title Animated 3D (see
at left). In fact, i have just give a simple name. I don't know why he  want
to give a number (ie %d) ?


2010/9/18 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>

> I was believing than another revision was done since this  morning (that
> could explain that) but no. I have no problem for launch it on Lucid.
>
> 2010/9/18 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi Andy,
>>
>> How are you ? Perhaps tonight ?
>>
>> I have always (not for a long time) my karmic in 32 bits for my HTPC. I
>> have done a update on this system (1.2.0 beta1), i have a  conflict
>> encountered - revision 332 after running openshot i have an Syntaxerror.
>> Have the same ? I'm going to check on the other
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> 2010/9/18 Andy Finch <we.rocked.in79@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Has anyone else got a Karmic (9.10) install (maybe a virtualbox)? Just
>>> wondered if anyone else can verify a problem with the right click menu on
>>> the main project tree - it's not appearing & getting a python error.
>>>
>>> Andy.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 September 2010 12:28, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jonathan, (and hello, at this moment you go to sleep very late or
>>>> rather early !!!!!)
>>>>
>>>> Some anothers news effects very interesting here<http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Video : all the effects presents work fine
>>>>> Audio : a little doubt for the tremble but the others work fine too.
>>>>>
>>>>> For this week-end ? (i am nearly sure)[?][?]
>>>>>
>>>>> My general impression is that she is more and more stable (under
>>>>> blender/Python API)
>>>>>
>>>>> A suggestion: for the next version between one week (for  sample) we
>>>>> should launch a test campaign and same ask help on our forum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  | So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version
>>>>>> of Sox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is obligatory ? i have not yet installed MLT 0.5.10 on Lucid ? No ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>> Strange Burning tv was working great on Karmic.
>>>>>> Deinterlace :is it necesseray to remove it if it is working fine with
>>>>>> MLT 0.5.10 ? A advertisement could just do ? Marverick is not far a way and
>>>>>> with the PPA ........
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  | I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and different
>>>>>> computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just fine on MLT
>>>>>> 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.  Also, MLT
>>>>>> 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10 uses.  So, to
>>>>>> upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of Sox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have re-tested and that works great now (a bad manipulation ?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  | I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect text
>>>>>> video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires converting
>>>>>> the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never could figure
>>>>>> that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until another day. =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Domage. It is really awesone It strikes the minds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  |
>>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay and i done some others tests for this effects at problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Olivier, thanks for the feedback.  Here are the resolutions for the
>>>>>>> issues we have found so far:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>> REMOVED - deinterlace - seg faults on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6. Works fine
>>>>>>> on MLT 0.5.10, but Ubuntu does not have that version yet.
>>>>>>> REMOVED - frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>> REMOVED - wave - seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6
>>>>>>> REMOVED - BurningTV - only black screen, seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 &
>>>>>>> 0.5.6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Audio:
>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>> FIXED - bass - not changing the sound
>>>>>>> FIXED - treble - not changing the sound
>>>>>>> FIXED - echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ... ]
>>>>>>> FIXED - phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>> REMOVED - pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]].  The pitch effect seemed completely broken.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and different
>>>>>>> computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just fine on MLT
>>>>>>> 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.  Also, MLT
>>>>>>> 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10 uses.  So, to
>>>>>>> upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of Sox.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect text
>>>>>>> video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires converting
>>>>>>> the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never could figure
>>>>>>> that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until another day. =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice this puzzle transition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have finished my test on a Ubuntu 10.04 in 64 bits with all
>>>>>>>> standard And i note the following things :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>> ______
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> two type of error : a seg faults for :
>>>>>>>> - freiOr.constrestor
>>>>>>>> -deinterlace
>>>>>>>> and a black window for :
>>>>>>>> -burning tv
>>>>>>>> -chroma key
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Audio:
>>>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ... ]
>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have nothing in console for the others but same if i am not a
>>>>>>>> sound specialize, i have the impression that none ...........works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  | Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the command
>>>>>>>> line using "play"
>>>>>>>> How do you test this sound effects in the command line "play" ? It
>>>>>>>> can help me to know what i must ..................hear before to test. And
>>>>>>>> if sox works (in command line) the problem not comes from him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I aml going to do some others tests with the last version of MLT (ie
>>>>>>>> 5.10) for this effects and after with the last version of FreiOr-plugins
>>>>>>>> always in a 10.04.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have found a little translation bug (or not ? ) When you add a
>>>>>>>> effect in the Clip Propertie (tab effect), none effect is translate while it
>>>>>>>> is the opposite in the tab effect in the main window. It is not the same
>>>>>>>> list ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Beautiful this template for the Title animated 3D, i like this
>>>>>>>> clapboard/clapperboards template.
>>>>>>>> I hope that you could fix all the small bugs in the others files, i
>>>>>>>> find the little train very funny but too much quick. And the famous effect
>>>>>>>> particle (like the Youtube video that you have show us when you have speak
>>>>>>>> the first time) Have you managed to create.
>>>>>>>>  I don't remember if i have said about a bug when you create a name
>>>>>>>> of the title (see the screenshot),
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>> I made a modification to the puzzle transition.  It didn't really
>>>>>>>>> work the way that it was made.  The entire puzzle would just appear.  So, I
>>>>>>>>> made some of the pieces different shades of grey, and then softened the
>>>>>>>>> edges with a "blur" in gimp.  Check it out... it's kind of fun.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't worry, i will be more available tomorrow and normally when
>>>>>>>>>> you wake up tomorrow............. it will done. [?]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember if i have told you about this new effect :
>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=553
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>> I was trying to not update any more translations, but now that I
>>>>>>>>>>> have lots of new blender animations to add in, I'll go ahead and re-generate
>>>>>>>>>>> the POT later tonight.  I've gone ahead and added the "missing frame" error
>>>>>>>>>>> message to the list of translations.  They will all be in LaunchPad by the
>>>>>>>>>>> time you wake up tomorrow... hopefully. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is us (and not Blender) in the BlendorGenerator.py line
>>>>>>>>>>>> 723/724.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Andy, a user inform us that it miss a string to translate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and after verification that's right. All was not genereted by the pot file !
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the subject :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=552&p=2449#p2449
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes but do you think that can not be the 5.10 and the 1.2 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They can update their package like it is some great and important projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some others important projects (kdenlive, us) ? They have already done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that  Lucid (i.e.MLT).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the versions in Maverick, and it looks like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT is a bit newer, but frei0r is the same version as in Lucid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Lucid is 0.5.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Maverick is 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frei0r is 1.1.22 (both Lucid and Maverick)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes but a thought: i suppose that this version (i.e. mlt &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freiOr-plugins) will be certainly in Marverick. No ? It is too late for them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With my tests, I was using the versions in the repository
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of mlt, sox, and frei0r.  Since those packages are not in our PPA, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assuming most users will just stick with the version in their distro's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll check out the blender files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two things :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here  some news greats blend files :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476#p2446
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the test, the new version of the  freior-plugins is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. We can find it here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/ppa>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must do the tests with this version or with the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'official" ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And which one version of MLT ? The last version is release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Update:*  I have tested on Ubuntu 10.10 beta, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same issues are reproducible.  I guess these issues also existed for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last release of OpenShot, because they don't seem related to our code, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather some bug between MLT, Sox, and Frei0r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Jonathan Thomas <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been testing OpenShot on Ubuntu 10.04, and here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are the issues I'm having so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Video:* - A few video effects have give me some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deinterlace - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wave - looks horrible, doesn't work correctly (at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no seg fault though)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water - worked fine for me, but I removed it from bzr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Audio:* - These sox effects don't do anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me... but throw lots of these errors in the terminal output
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line using "play"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to continue to test on Ubuntu 10.04, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will test on Ubuntu 10.10 (to see if these issues still exist).  Also, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will try with the newest version of MLT and see what happens.  Please let me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if you can verify these errors on your own system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShot : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olivier
>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Olivier
>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier
>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Olivier
> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>



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http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
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