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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all,
I agree in both respects.
The target system is something that will freeze up using ubiquity....
however,
our target is also people that want a lightweight environment that is
fairly easy to set up, and is fully customizable.  This would make using
Ubiquity ideal for some people... however,
I have an idea that we could in effect partition the harddrive for the
user based on a few options, and detecting what is already on the
machine (is it Linux, or not?).
Then make a chroot on the computer from stored packages in /var/apt/cache
and install grub2 to it.... and voila.
It could be a simple dialog program that asks a couple of questions, and
runs basically the script we already have to build the Live CD, but uses
/dev/sdX mounted at /mnt/OS as the chroot directory.  it could
potentially link /dev/sdN as the /home of the new system.

Phill, does this seem reasonable?  Am I missing something major in what
I understand here?  This seems like what Ubiquity would be doing in essence.

On 09/14/2014 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> No, I'm not joking, Phill :-D
>
> Ubiquity should not be the only installer, because it has a heavy
> foot-print, as you wrote. I certainly agree with you about that.
>
> But I think many people 'need it' to set up their system in an advanced
> way, with several partitions or with OEM.
>
> For OEM it is enough to include ubiquity in the tarball and not in the
> installer (live system). We can consider that.
>
> -o-
>
> But I suggest that we do *not* include ubiquity in the present version
> of ToriOS.
>
> The alternate installer is an entirely different concept without a live
> session. It would create a doublet system, that I do not think we should
> bother about for ToriOS. The OBI needs much less RAM than the alternate
> installer, and it is much faster and much more stable, particularly with
> low end computers.
>
> Who needs a very complicated partition system on a very old and weak
> computer? I think some people want it, but do they really need it? Many
> people (including me) are happy with one root partition, one swap
> partition and a *data partition*, that need not be included in the
> system setup, and that can be managed separately for pictures, music,
> video, etc). This is easily set up with gparted and used by the OBI at
> the advanced OBI level.
>
> It might be different in a more powerful computer, but then ubiquity can
> do the job.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> Den 2014-09-14 16:51, Phill Whiteside skrev:
>> WHAT????
>>
>>
>> On 14 September 2014 15:22, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>     So even I would say that ubiquity should be bundled with ToriOS, maybe
>>     not in the first version, but in the next version, or in a DVD version
>>     (oversized for CD disks), while we must keep a very lean CD version.
>>
>>
>>
>> you are joking. 
>>
>> Use the alternate installer as per lubuntu. A lot of the machines you
>> are aiming for could not run ubiquity! Lubuntu runs on less than what
>> Ubiquity needs.
>>
>> Just my thoughts,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>> -- 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw


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