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["Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:36 AM, George DiceGeorge <dicegeorge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> No, this is not a temporary solution
> It is more permanent than your option...
> because
>
> under your paid for option with your friend what would happen
> if/when he or you die or go bankrupt?
>
>

There is a valid good reason why ToriOS is a community project and not a
one-man project ;)



> george
>
> *From:* Ali/amjjawad <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2016 12:13 PM
> *To:* George DiceGeorge <dicegeorge@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Nio Wiklund
> <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc:* toriOS Mailing list <torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* Re: [Torios] The History of ToriOS Websites
>
> Hi George and everyone else,
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:39 PM, George DiceGeorge <dicegeorge@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>
>> maybe you misunderstand me,
>> http://torios.dicenews.com/
>> is only set up as a temporary address
>> until torios.net or torios.top etc
>> are pointed there,
>> which ould take five minutes.
>>
>> Its provided by http://www.hatters.org.uk/
>>
>
> Indeed I understood and that is why I sent more than one email to explain
> the situation and make things clear. We don't need temporary solutions.
> While it might seems weird/odd but I prefer our website to be down rather
> than waste time and energy on building a temporary website that might serve
> us few days.
>
> You see, we have waited for so long to have a decent website. I'm
> personally not interested in temporary solutions and I think Nio agrees
> with me.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> They are not ‘professional’ in the sense that they’re not asking for
>> money,
>> however as its run by a co-op there is less chance of losing the space
>> due to a death or bankruptcy,
>> which is the case with small businesses which often overextend themselves.
>>
>
> I understand :)
> Thanks for explaining!
>
>
>>
>> However i suggest you retain control of the domain name just in case
>> (but what if/when whoever owns the domain name dies ??
>> (i’ve added mine into my will))
>>
>> They dont offer cpanel,
>> but do forward an email address.
>>
>> I’ve used them for many years for many websites without any major
>> problems,
>> www.tlio.org.uk etc etc
>>
>>
>
> The great news is:
> https://austenite.co.uk/
>
> Kris has updated his packages:
> https://austenite.co.uk/forum.html#/discussion/4/new-better-pricing-and-ssl
>
> It means, in case we agree, the amount of money that we are suppose to
> invest into ToriOS is less now :)
>
> Oh, and we have 1 month for free.
> And, we can upgrade or downgrade free of charge at any point.
>
> torios.top is ready. I did not yet sign up for the server.
>
> I am not sure how much traffic do we need but looking at the NEW starter
> package after the latest update, it sounds good option for us.
>
> Yes, I think I can also provide emails or forwarders.
>
> @Nio
> I saw your other email. Couldn't reply though.
> I agree with you, it is better to pay for 12 months (1 year) rather than
> 12 times every month.
>
> I am NOT yet sure which package is good for us? assuming starter is good
> enough:
> 3 Pound/Month
> 36 Pound/Year
>
> I am not sure who else is willing to donate beside Nio?
>
> The more people we have, the less each one will pay per year :)
>
>
>
>> [george]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ali/amjjawad <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 2, 2016 10:21 PM
>> *To:* toriOS Mailing list <torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Subject:* [Torios] The History of ToriOS Websites
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Because some of us have misunderstood my email lately about donating for
>> a server and get our website to live on, here is some CLEAR email to shade
>> the light on the history of ToriOS websites :)
>>
>>
>>    1. torios.org was the first domain that ToriOS project got. However,
>>    the one who registered that domain had the entire access to the domain and
>>    server and none of us had full access, even me the founder of this project.
>>    One bad day, he disappeared and we have never heard of him ever again until
>>    this very moment. What happened to torios.org at the moment? check
>>    yourself: https://www.gandi.net/whois/details?search=torios.com and
>>    we have lost our dedicated email address. I had amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx
>>    but not any more.
>>    2. Phill of the Lubuntu has donated a domain torios.net and a virtual
>>    machine where torios.net lived. However, because it was FREE and
>>    there is no obligations whatsoever except friendship and good will to help,
>>    that wasn't good enough to be honest. What happened to torios.net?
>>    check yourself. It has been down for so many times and we have not been
>>    able to share one single post on our website for ages now!
>>    3. Now, when I suggest to have a decent server with a decent company
>>    which is owned by decent man I vouch for him, when some money involved,
>>    some seem to refuse the idea. Sorry, but that's the one and only path I
>>    have in mind at the moment and as a founder, I find it the best path ever
>>    to avoid unneeded problems.
>>    4. NO to any temporary solution :) I am sorry if I'll sound rude to
>>    George but having something like: http://torios.dicenews.com/
>>    <http://torios.dicenews.com/wp-admin> is not decent at all. ToriOS is
>>    not a toy, it's a decent project and the website should be something to
>>    reflect that as well.
>>    5. I have myself tried the FREE solutions. http://kibo.computer/ was
>>    my business project. Out of 12 months, the website was down for 4 months
>>    total or more. Why? that's what happens when you think FREE solutions FTW.
>>    In fact, FREE is not always good at all :)
>>
>>
>>
>> So, hopefully this will enlighten us a bit :)
>>
>>
>>
>> If by any chance you have BETTER solutions/ideas, kindly share :)
>>
>> HOWEVER, before you do, kindly keep in mind that ToriOS website should
>> NOT be down for ages just because of whatever non logical reason.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have a project to run, not a joke to tell.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>
>> *http://kibo.computer <http://kibo.computer>* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu
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>
>
> --
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>
> Best Regards,
> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>
> *http://kibo.computer <http://kibo.computer>* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu
> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
>



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Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>

*http://kibo.computer <http://kibo.computer>* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu
GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/>