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The IRC meetings? We've got one this Saturday at 10 PM (UTC) and another on
Sunday at the same time. (10pm UTC is 5PM EST)

...and Mac converts I generally find the hardest to convert; if only because
they have bought heavily into Apple, and proclaim the 'stress-free
lifestyle' to be the best, even though, for the most part, we share that and
the fact that we've got no cost, either. :P


On 9 December 2010 12:33, Archibald Platypus <idi0tf0wl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 12:22 +0000, tarek.said.info@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > We were discussing that a while back, trying to gather support from
> > system76 and other companies who ship Ubuntu by default.
> >
> > That's a topic we can discuss during the meetings saturday and
> > sunday :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tarek.
>
> Speaking of which, where can I find some details on that? I feel like I
> have them somewhere in my inbox, but I can't seem to find them...
>
> >
> > Em 09/12/2010 09:48, Archibald Platypus <idi0tf0wl@xxxxxxxxx>
> > escreveu:
> > > You raise some interesting points here. As someone who constantly
> > >
> > > proselytizes the open source lifestyle, I have come into contact
> > with
> > >
> > > all kinds of excuses. While I've found that it's relatively easy to
> > >
> > > convert XP users to, say, Ubuntu (no need to bring Linux
> > > and of its own> up with most people), the conversion rates drop
> > >
> > > significantly when the change in question is from say Windows 7
> > (don't
> > >
> > > even try converting Mac users, even though I myself am a Mac
> > convert) or
> > >
> > > when someone is about to purchase a new computer. "No, I think I'm
> > just
> > >
> > > gonna try out 7" they say, but then add, "but maybe you could put it
> > on
> > >
> > > this one?" pointing at their "old" machine. You can pique their
> > >
> > > curiosity with "rejuvenation," but "alternative" is a much harder
> > idea
> > >
> > > to push. If perhaps there was a way to push optimized-for-Linux
> > hardware
> > >
> > > (someone brought that up in a thread at ubuntuforums) onto the scene
> > >
> > > with Ubuntu pre-loaded, they would feel more comfortable with the
> > >
> > > alternative. Because then it's a "competitor." People trip about
> > >
> > > words...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And one more thing: my conversion rate is nearly 100% on netbooks,
> > >
> > > because there really just is no competition in this arena. I feel
> > like
> > >
> > > Canonical understands this, though, because one look at Unity
> > screams
> > >
> > > "NETBOOK" (though I'm not terribly fond of its translation to "real"
> > >
> > > hardware). Who's looking to start up a *ahem* start-up?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 11:19 +0000, Barry Drake wrote:
> > >
> > > > I thought I'd ask one or two colleagues how they would react to
> > Ubuntu
> > >
> > > > advertising - and what features might tempt them to give it a
> > try.  One
> > >
> > > > said that support was his biggest need - someone to reassure him
> > and
> > >
> > > > hold his hand.  This is something we're really strong on.  Another
> > said
> > >
> > > > that now he had his computers working well on Windows 7 he would
> > be very
> > >
> > > > reluctant even to try anything.  This confirms my suspicion that
> > anyone
> > >
> > > > using anything really up-to-date isn't part of our useful target.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Another colleague has a large collection of Libronix books that
> > cost
> > >
> > > > over £1000, so he is not part of the target, and as he rightly
> > says,
> > >
> > > > there needs to be clear information on the website about this kind
> > of
> > >
> > > > need.  There also needs to be lobbying in the direction of
> > Libronix.
> > >
> > > > I've e-mailed of course, but it took many, many Mac users to
> > persuade
> > >
> > > > them to produce a Mac version.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Maybe the website ought to have clear information as to which of
> > the
> > >
> > > > user's files are portable and which are not (Autocad, M$
> > Publisher ...).
> > >
> > > > The last thing anyone here wants if for someone to go to a lot of
> > >
> > > > trouble and find they can't do the one thing that's most important
> > to
> > >
> > > > them.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Interestingly, when I asked the question, I only mentioned
> > Ubuntu.  Each
> > >
> > > > of the responses used the words 'operating system', and the
> > responders
> > >
> > > > were quite clear that Windows is just an 'operating system' among
> > >
> > > > others.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Another colleague asks if approaches have been made to Which, and
> > can we
> > >
> > > > persuade mags such as PC magazine etc to carry an article.  Job
> > here for
> > >
> > > > you Canonical guys.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Regards,              Barry Drake
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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