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[Ekrem Tomur <ekrem.tomur@xxxxxxxxx>]

Meningche eger yengi konupka taxtisi tuzushke toghra kelsimu konisini saqlap
qelish kerek. Yengi konupka taxtisi tuzush normal. Finlanning konupka
taxtisimu tarixta nechche qetim özgergenken, biraq konisimu Linux hem
windows qatarliq meshghulat sestimilirida yenila bar.

2010/5/14 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>

> Xosh, kopchilik.  Helila bir kichik sinaq elip bardim.
>
> Qarighanda Mac OS X diki kunupka taxtisidimu Uyghurche tinish belgiler
> toluq emes oxshaydu.  Yeni, Uyghurche halette, '<' kunupkini bassa '‹'
> emes, '<' herpi chiqidiken.  Andin shu Mac ning igisidin igellishimche,
> Mac OS X diki Uyghurche kunupka taxtisi este saqlashqa teximu asan, eplik
> tuyulidiken (Windows dikige selishturghanda).
>
> Mushu Mac OS X diki Uyghur kunupka taxtisi asasida, yengidin birni
> tuzudighan gepmu qandaq?
>
> 2010/5/14 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> OK.  Meqsed-muddi'a manga ayding boldi.
>>
>> Menmu bugun etigen ishxanigha keliwetip, Windows (DOS) diki bu
>> qalaymiqanliqtin neri turup, Mac OS X diki Uyghurche kunupka taxta
>> orunlashturushini Xorg gha ishlitishni oylap qaldim (neme degen bilen Mac OS
>> X bilen *nix a'ilisinng qandashliq munasiwiti bar emesmu).  Yenimda Mac yoq
>> (kechte ishtin chushkende BestBuy gha berip qarap baqimen), lekin esimde
>> qelishiche Mac OS X diki Uyghurche kunupka taxta orunlashturushi del Burkut
>> degendek 'A' kunupkini bassa 'A' herpi chiqidighan kunupka taxta
>> orunlashturushi.  Uning ustige bu kunupka taxtisini Qarluqtikiler ozi Apple
>> gha berip, ular bilen neq meydanda pikir alsmashturup meydangha kelturgen
>> nerse.  Shungimu Uyghurchigha munasiwetlik bezi inchike tereplerde Mac OS X
>> Windows qarighanda yaxshi bolushi mumkin (Microsoft tikiler bilen bolghan
>> alaqining mezmunidin qarighanda).  Hepte axirida Mac OS X din birni tepip
>> tetqiq qilip baqay.
>>
>> Herqeysinglar qandaq qaraysizler?
>>
>> 2010/5/14 Eagle Burkut <eagle.burkut@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> 2010/5/12 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS.
>>>>
>>>> Burkut we Muhemmed Abdulla ependilerni bu manizirige bashlap kirgili
>>>> bolarmu?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Men xet sanduqumgha kelgen hemme xetlerni koz yugurtup bolsimu oqup
>>> keliwatimen. Yeqinda aldirash bolghachqa, bezi ishlargha tepsili qarap
>>> bolalmidim. Mushu hepte axiridin bashlap, qolum sel boshaydu. Shu waqitta bu
>>> ishqa tepsili qaray.
>>>
>>> Bir ishtin xewerlendurup qoysam, Yeqinda Urumchide,
>>> Uyghurche-Qazaqche-Qirghizche kunupka taxtisini olchemleshturush heqqide
>>> xele chong yighin echilghanmish. Professor Hoshur Islam, Tetqiqatchi Yasin
>>> Imin ependimler we bashqa her sahe,  shirketlerdin bolup wekillermu barmish.
>>>
>>> Yighinda, Qazaq, Qirghiz qerindashlardin kop pikir chushup, hazirqi "H"
>>> ni bassa "A" chiqidighan kirguzguchni putunley emeldin qaldurup, "H" ni
>>> bassa "H" chiqidighan kirguzguchni meydan'gha chiqirish heqqide kuchluk
>>> telepler bolup, bu pikirlerni Hoshur Islam, Yasin Iminlermu aghduriwetelmey,
>>> yighin netijisiz axirlishiptu.
>>>
>>> Hoshur Islam, Yasin Iminler digenmish, "H" ni basqanda, "A" chiqsa, tez
>>> xet basqili bolidu dep. Qazaq-Qirghizlar digenmish, bizning meqsidimiz tez
>>> xet basquchi bolush emes, belki kompyuterdin paydilinish dep.
>>>
>>> Shuning bilen yighin netijisiz axirliship, netijisiz tarqiliptu, keyin
>>> yene dawamlashturush heqqide hichqandaq gep bolunmighanmish.
>>>
>>> Gheyret ependim dedi, UyghurEdit tiki orunlashturush UHKC din kelgen dep.
>>> UHKC nedin kelgen digen gepke, otmushtiki, telegiraf idarisidiki Uyghurche
>>> telegiraf mashinisidin kelgenmish ... (Bu gepning axiri, Amerikida poyiz
>>> relisining kengligi qaysi olchemge asasen yasalghan digen su'algha ademler
>>> minidighan at ning saghrisining kengligi olchem bolghanmish... Bu gep burun
>>> Bilikte deyilgen, mening Uyghurche kirguzguchke pikrim bar digen temilirimda
>>> bu gepler deyilgen.)
>>>
>>> Uyghur yeziqida bar bolghan aran 12 dane tinish belgilirini bilmeydighan
>>> danishmenler dolet olchimige bularning aran 11 ini yollap 1 ni untup qalghan
>>> ehwalni oylashqanda, Men awu danishmenlerning hemme pikirlirini qarghularche
>>> qobul qilish terepdari emes.
>>>
>>> Otkende mushu heqte Gheyret ependim bilen pikirleshken iduq. Gheyret
>>> ependimning pikri "izchilliq" ni saqlash iken. Mening bundaq ishlarda
>>> meydanim xata-namuwapiq bolsa,tuzitip, "islah" qilish terepdari.
>>>
>>> Elwette, bizning qolimizda tamgha bolmighachqa, biz peqet ozimizdin
>>> bashqilargha wekillik qilalmaymiz. lekin shundaqtimu, toghrisida dawamliq
>>> ching tursaq, qolida tamgha tutqanlar haman bir kuni toghrini qobul qilmay
>>> amali yoq. Mesilen ULY ning meydan'gha kelishi we keyinki til-yeziqning
>>> hojjiti buninggha ispattur.
>>>
>>> Yene bir ishni qoshup qoysam, yeqinda wetende elipbedin sawadi chiqqan
>>> bir jiyen qizim bilen dadisi otturisidiki bir dialogni bu yerge yezip qoyay.
>>> (Bu heqiqi bolghan dialog, men telefun arqiliq bilgen.)
>>>
>>> - Dada, komputerda Uyghurche xet basqili bolamdu?
>>> - Bolidu.
>>> - Men elipbeni tugitip, sawadliq boldum. Uyghurche xet besip baqaymu?
>>> - Bolidu. Mana kompyuter.
>>> - Uyghurche A ni besip baqay.
>>> (7 yashliq qiz shu gepni digech, kunupkidin A ni basidu. Lekin ekrandiki
>>> H ni korup.)
>>> - Bu kompyuterning sawadi chiqmaptu, A ni bassam H chiqiwatidu.
>>> - Kompyuterda Uyghurche shundaq yasalghan, F ni bassingiz A chiqidu.
>>> - Qandaq sarang kompyuter bu? Qandaq sarang adem yasighan kompyuter bu?
>>> Bundaq sarang kompyuterda men Uyghurche xet basmaymen. Bundaq sarang
>>> kompyutergha yeqinmu kelmeymen.
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Qolida tamgha tutiwalghan munasiwetlik ashu danishmenler yuqurdiki
>>> dialogni oqup baqsa, ozlirining Uyghurlargha, Uyghur Til-Yeziqigha qanchilik
>>> ziyankeshlik qiliwatqanliqini bileligudek eqli bolsa, hush-kallisini
>>> silkiwetsun. Bolmisa sesiq nami tarix-betide miqlinip qalidu.
>>>
>>> Her qetim mushu ishni oylisam, yurigim echishidighan bolghachqa, bu heqte
>>> yene qaynap qaldim. Meningche kunupka ishida, eyni waqitta ULY otturigha
>>> chiqqandek, oz yolimizda tewrenmey algha qarap mangsaq, melum bir mezgil
>>> otkendin keyin, xelq-awam haman toghra nersige egishidu. Kopchilikning mushu
>>> nuqtini yene oylinip beqishini otinimen.
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Abdusalam Abdurahman
>>
>>
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> Regards,
> Abdusalam Abdurahman
>
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