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[Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>]

[?]  Biriningmu sayisi yoq emesmu hazir? Hehe...

2010/5/14 Ekrem Tomur <ekrem.tomur@xxxxxxxxx>

> bir qetimda ikki taxta qoshsaq qandaq bolar?
> qarisam tibetningmu ikkisi barken, bizmu birsi yengi birsi kona idi desek?
>
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> 2010/5/14 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Toghra deysiz.  Lekin, Linux ning Xorg bolikide hechqandaq Uyghurche
>> kunupka taxtisi yoq.  Eger Xorg da Uyghurche kunupka taxtisi bolghan bolsa
>> bizmu bu yerde aware bolup yurmes iduq.  Shunga bizning bu kunupka taxtimiz
>> tunjisi bolup hesablinidu.  Shunga esta'idil, awaylap bir ish qilayli.
>>
>> 2010/5/14 Ekrem Tomur <ekrem.tomur@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Meningche eger yengi konupka taxtisi tuzushke toghra kelsimu konisini
>>> saqlap qelish kerek. Yengi konupka taxtisi tuzush normal. Finlanning konupka
>>> taxtisimu tarixta nechche qetim özgergenken, biraq konisimu Linux hem
>>> windows qatarliq meshghulat sestimilirida yenila bar.
>>>
>>> 2010/5/14 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> Xosh, kopchilik.  Helila bir kichik sinaq elip bardim.
>>>>
>>>> Qarighanda Mac OS X diki kunupka taxtisidimu Uyghurche tinish belgiler
>>>> toluq emes oxshaydu.  Yeni, Uyghurche halette, '<' kunupkini bassa '‹'
>>>> emes, '<' herpi chiqidiken.  Andin shu Mac ning igisidin igellishimche,
>>>> Mac OS X diki Uyghurche kunupka taxtisi este saqlashqa teximu asan, eplik
>>>> tuyulidiken (Windows dikige selishturghanda).
>>>>
>>>> Mushu Mac OS X diki Uyghur kunupka taxtisi asasida, yengidin birni
>>>> tuzudighan gepmu qandaq?
>>>>
>>>> 2010/5/14 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> OK.  Meqsed-muddi'a manga ayding boldi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Menmu bugun etigen ishxanigha keliwetip, Windows (DOS) diki bu
>>>>> qalaymiqanliqtin neri turup, Mac OS X diki Uyghurche kunupka taxta
>>>>> orunlashturushini Xorg gha ishlitishni oylap qaldim (neme degen bilen Mac OS
>>>>> X bilen *nix a'ilisinng qandashliq munasiwiti bar emesmu).  Yenimda Mac yoq
>>>>> (kechte ishtin chushkende BestBuy gha berip qarap baqimen), lekin esimde
>>>>> qelishiche Mac OS X diki Uyghurche kunupka taxta orunlashturushi del Burkut
>>>>> degendek 'A' kunupkini bassa 'A' herpi chiqidighan kunupka taxta
>>>>> orunlashturushi.  Uning ustige bu kunupka taxtisini Qarluqtikiler ozi Apple
>>>>> gha berip, ular bilen neq meydanda pikir alsmashturup meydangha kelturgen
>>>>> nerse.  Shungimu Uyghurchigha munasiwetlik bezi inchike tereplerde Mac OS X
>>>>> Windows qarighanda yaxshi bolushi mumkin (Microsoft tikiler bilen bolghan
>>>>> alaqining mezmunidin qarighanda).  Hepte axirida Mac OS X din birni tepip
>>>>> tetqiq qilip baqay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Herqeysinglar qandaq qaraysizler?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/5/14 Eagle Burkut <eagle.burkut@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/5/12 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Burkut we Muhemmed Abdulla ependilerni bu manizirige bashlap kirgili
>>>>>>> bolarmu?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Men xet sanduqumgha kelgen hemme xetlerni koz yugurtup bolsimu oqup
>>>>>> keliwatimen. Yeqinda aldirash bolghachqa, bezi ishlargha tepsili qarap
>>>>>> bolalmidim. Mushu hepte axiridin bashlap, qolum sel boshaydu. Shu waqitta bu
>>>>>> ishqa tepsili qaray.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bir ishtin xewerlendurup qoysam, Yeqinda Urumchide,
>>>>>> Uyghurche-Qazaqche-Qirghizche kunupka taxtisini olchemleshturush heqqide
>>>>>> xele chong yighin echilghanmish. Professor Hoshur Islam, Tetqiqatchi Yasin
>>>>>> Imin ependimler we bashqa her sahe,  shirketlerdin bolup wekillermu barmish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yighinda, Qazaq, Qirghiz qerindashlardin kop pikir chushup, hazirqi
>>>>>> "H" ni bassa "A" chiqidighan kirguzguchni putunley emeldin qaldurup, "H" ni
>>>>>> bassa "H" chiqidighan kirguzguchni meydan'gha chiqirish heqqide kuchluk
>>>>>> telepler bolup, bu pikirlerni Hoshur Islam, Yasin Iminlermu aghduriwetelmey,
>>>>>> yighin netijisiz axirlishiptu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hoshur Islam, Yasin Iminler digenmish, "H" ni basqanda, "A" chiqsa,
>>>>>> tez xet basqili bolidu dep. Qazaq-Qirghizlar digenmish, bizning meqsidimiz
>>>>>> tez xet basquchi bolush emes, belki kompyuterdin paydilinish dep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shuning bilen yighin netijisiz axirliship, netijisiz tarqiliptu, keyin
>>>>>> yene dawamlashturush heqqide hichqandaq gep bolunmighanmish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gheyret ependim dedi, UyghurEdit tiki orunlashturush UHKC din kelgen
>>>>>> dep. UHKC nedin kelgen digen gepke, otmushtiki, telegiraf idarisidiki
>>>>>> Uyghurche telegiraf mashinisidin kelgenmish ... (Bu gepning axiri, Amerikida
>>>>>> poyiz relisining kengligi qaysi olchemge asasen yasalghan digen su'algha
>>>>>> ademler minidighan at ning saghrisining kengligi olchem bolghanmish... Bu
>>>>>> gep burun Bilikte deyilgen, mening Uyghurche kirguzguchke pikrim bar digen
>>>>>> temilirimda bu gepler deyilgen.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uyghur yeziqida bar bolghan aran 12 dane tinish belgilirini
>>>>>> bilmeydighan danishmenler dolet olchimige bularning aran 11 ini yollap 1 ni
>>>>>> untup qalghan ehwalni oylashqanda, Men awu danishmenlerning hemme
>>>>>> pikirlirini qarghularche qobul qilish terepdari emes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otkende mushu heqte Gheyret ependim bilen pikirleshken iduq. Gheyret
>>>>>> ependimning pikri "izchilliq" ni saqlash iken. Mening bundaq ishlarda
>>>>>> meydanim xata-namuwapiq bolsa,tuzitip, "islah" qilish terepdari.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Elwette, bizning qolimizda tamgha bolmighachqa, biz peqet ozimizdin
>>>>>> bashqilargha wekillik qilalmaymiz. lekin shundaqtimu, toghrisida dawamliq
>>>>>> ching tursaq, qolida tamgha tutqanlar haman bir kuni toghrini qobul qilmay
>>>>>> amali yoq. Mesilen ULY ning meydan'gha kelishi we keyinki til-yeziqning
>>>>>> hojjiti buninggha ispattur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yene bir ishni qoshup qoysam, yeqinda wetende elipbedin sawadi chiqqan
>>>>>> bir jiyen qizim bilen dadisi otturisidiki bir dialogni bu yerge yezip qoyay.
>>>>>> (Bu heqiqi bolghan dialog, men telefun arqiliq bilgen.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Dada, komputerda Uyghurche xet basqili bolamdu?
>>>>>> - Bolidu.
>>>>>> - Men elipbeni tugitip, sawadliq boldum. Uyghurche xet besip baqaymu?
>>>>>> - Bolidu. Mana kompyuter.
>>>>>> - Uyghurche A ni besip baqay.
>>>>>> (7 yashliq qiz shu gepni digech, kunupkidin A ni basidu. Lekin
>>>>>> ekrandiki H ni korup.)
>>>>>> - Bu kompyuterning sawadi chiqmaptu, A ni bassam H chiqiwatidu.
>>>>>> - Kompyuterda Uyghurche shundaq yasalghan, F ni bassingiz A chiqidu.
>>>>>> - Qandaq sarang kompyuter bu? Qandaq sarang adem yasighan kompyuter
>>>>>> bu? Bundaq sarang kompyuterda men Uyghurche xet basmaymen. Bundaq sarang
>>>>>> kompyutergha yeqinmu kelmeymen.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Qolida tamgha tutiwalghan munasiwetlik ashu danishmenler yuqurdiki
>>>>>> dialogni oqup baqsa, ozlirining Uyghurlargha, Uyghur Til-Yeziqigha qanchilik
>>>>>> ziyankeshlik qiliwatqanliqini bileligudek eqli bolsa, hush-kallisini
>>>>>> silkiwetsun. Bolmisa sesiq nami tarix-betide miqlinip qalidu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Her qetim mushu ishni oylisam, yurigim echishidighan bolghachqa, bu
>>>>>> heqte yene qaynap qaldim. Meningche kunupka ishida, eyni waqitta ULY
>>>>>> otturigha chiqqandek, oz yolimizda tewrenmey algha qarap mangsaq, melum bir
>>>>>> mezgil otkendin keyin, xelq-awam haman toghra nersige egishidu.
>>>>>> Kopchilikning mushu nuqtini yene oylinip beqishini otinimen.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Abdusalam Abdurahman
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Regards,
>>>> Abdusalam Abdurahman
>>>>
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Abdusalam Abdurahman