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[Ekrem Tomur <ekrem.tomur@xxxxxxxxx>]

bir qetimda ikki taxta qoshsaq qandaq bolar?
qarisam tibetningmu ikkisi barken, bizmu birsi yengi birsi kona idi desek?

2010/5/14 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>

> Toghra deysiz.  Lekin, Linux ning Xorg bolikide hechqandaq Uyghurche
> kunupka taxtisi yoq.  Eger Xorg da Uyghurche kunupka taxtisi bolghan bolsa
> bizmu bu yerde aware bolup yurmes iduq.  Shunga bizning bu kunupka taxtimiz
> tunjisi bolup hesablinidu.  Shunga esta'idil, awaylap bir ish qilayli.
>
> 2010/5/14 Ekrem Tomur <ekrem.tomur@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Meningche eger yengi konupka taxtisi tuzushke toghra kelsimu konisini
>> saqlap qelish kerek. Yengi konupka taxtisi tuzush normal. Finlanning konupka
>> taxtisimu tarixta nechche qetim özgergenken, biraq konisimu Linux hem
>> windows qatarliq meshghulat sestimilirida yenila bar.
>>
>> 2010/5/14 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> Xosh, kopchilik.  Helila bir kichik sinaq elip bardim.
>>>
>>> Qarighanda Mac OS X diki kunupka taxtisidimu Uyghurche tinish belgiler
>>> toluq emes oxshaydu.  Yeni, Uyghurche halette, '<' kunupkini bassa '‹'
>>> emes, '<' herpi chiqidiken.  Andin shu Mac ning igisidin igellishimche,
>>> Mac OS X diki Uyghurche kunupka taxtisi este saqlashqa teximu asan, eplik
>>> tuyulidiken (Windows dikige selishturghanda).
>>>
>>> Mushu Mac OS X diki Uyghur kunupka taxtisi asasida, yengidin birni
>>> tuzudighan gepmu qandaq?
>>>
>>> 2010/5/14 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> OK.  Meqsed-muddi'a manga ayding boldi.
>>>>
>>>> Menmu bugun etigen ishxanigha keliwetip, Windows (DOS) diki bu
>>>> qalaymiqanliqtin neri turup, Mac OS X diki Uyghurche kunupka taxta
>>>> orunlashturushini Xorg gha ishlitishni oylap qaldim (neme degen bilen Mac OS
>>>> X bilen *nix a'ilisinng qandashliq munasiwiti bar emesmu).  Yenimda Mac yoq
>>>> (kechte ishtin chushkende BestBuy gha berip qarap baqimen), lekin esimde
>>>> qelishiche Mac OS X diki Uyghurche kunupka taxta orunlashturushi del Burkut
>>>> degendek 'A' kunupkini bassa 'A' herpi chiqidighan kunupka taxta
>>>> orunlashturushi.  Uning ustige bu kunupka taxtisini Qarluqtikiler ozi Apple
>>>> gha berip, ular bilen neq meydanda pikir alsmashturup meydangha kelturgen
>>>> nerse.  Shungimu Uyghurchigha munasiwetlik bezi inchike tereplerde Mac OS X
>>>> Windows qarighanda yaxshi bolushi mumkin (Microsoft tikiler bilen bolghan
>>>> alaqining mezmunidin qarighanda).  Hepte axirida Mac OS X din birni tepip
>>>> tetqiq qilip baqay.
>>>>
>>>> Herqeysinglar qandaq qaraysizler?
>>>>
>>>> 2010/5/14 Eagle Burkut <eagle.burkut@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>> 2010/5/12 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Burkut we Muhemmed Abdulla ependilerni bu manizirige bashlap kirgili
>>>>>> bolarmu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Men xet sanduqumgha kelgen hemme xetlerni koz yugurtup bolsimu oqup
>>>>> keliwatimen. Yeqinda aldirash bolghachqa, bezi ishlargha tepsili qarap
>>>>> bolalmidim. Mushu hepte axiridin bashlap, qolum sel boshaydu. Shu waqitta bu
>>>>> ishqa tepsili qaray.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bir ishtin xewerlendurup qoysam, Yeqinda Urumchide,
>>>>> Uyghurche-Qazaqche-Qirghizche kunupka taxtisini olchemleshturush heqqide
>>>>> xele chong yighin echilghanmish. Professor Hoshur Islam, Tetqiqatchi Yasin
>>>>> Imin ependimler we bashqa her sahe,  shirketlerdin bolup wekillermu barmish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yighinda, Qazaq, Qirghiz qerindashlardin kop pikir chushup, hazirqi "H"
>>>>> ni bassa "A" chiqidighan kirguzguchni putunley emeldin qaldurup, "H" ni
>>>>> bassa "H" chiqidighan kirguzguchni meydan'gha chiqirish heqqide kuchluk
>>>>> telepler bolup, bu pikirlerni Hoshur Islam, Yasin Iminlermu aghduriwetelmey,
>>>>> yighin netijisiz axirlishiptu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hoshur Islam, Yasin Iminler digenmish, "H" ni basqanda, "A" chiqsa, tez
>>>>> xet basqili bolidu dep. Qazaq-Qirghizlar digenmish, bizning meqsidimiz tez
>>>>> xet basquchi bolush emes, belki kompyuterdin paydilinish dep.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shuning bilen yighin netijisiz axirliship, netijisiz tarqiliptu, keyin
>>>>> yene dawamlashturush heqqide hichqandaq gep bolunmighanmish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gheyret ependim dedi, UyghurEdit tiki orunlashturush UHKC din kelgen
>>>>> dep. UHKC nedin kelgen digen gepke, otmushtiki, telegiraf idarisidiki
>>>>> Uyghurche telegiraf mashinisidin kelgenmish ... (Bu gepning axiri, Amerikida
>>>>> poyiz relisining kengligi qaysi olchemge asasen yasalghan digen su'algha
>>>>> ademler minidighan at ning saghrisining kengligi olchem bolghanmish... Bu
>>>>> gep burun Bilikte deyilgen, mening Uyghurche kirguzguchke pikrim bar digen
>>>>> temilirimda bu gepler deyilgen.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Uyghur yeziqida bar bolghan aran 12 dane tinish belgilirini
>>>>> bilmeydighan danishmenler dolet olchimige bularning aran 11 ini yollap 1 ni
>>>>> untup qalghan ehwalni oylashqanda, Men awu danishmenlerning hemme
>>>>> pikirlirini qarghularche qobul qilish terepdari emes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otkende mushu heqte Gheyret ependim bilen pikirleshken iduq. Gheyret
>>>>> ependimning pikri "izchilliq" ni saqlash iken. Mening bundaq ishlarda
>>>>> meydanim xata-namuwapiq bolsa,tuzitip, "islah" qilish terepdari.
>>>>>
>>>>> Elwette, bizning qolimizda tamgha bolmighachqa, biz peqet ozimizdin
>>>>> bashqilargha wekillik qilalmaymiz. lekin shundaqtimu, toghrisida dawamliq
>>>>> ching tursaq, qolida tamgha tutqanlar haman bir kuni toghrini qobul qilmay
>>>>> amali yoq. Mesilen ULY ning meydan'gha kelishi we keyinki til-yeziqning
>>>>> hojjiti buninggha ispattur.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yene bir ishni qoshup qoysam, yeqinda wetende elipbedin sawadi chiqqan
>>>>> bir jiyen qizim bilen dadisi otturisidiki bir dialogni bu yerge yezip qoyay.
>>>>> (Bu heqiqi bolghan dialog, men telefun arqiliq bilgen.)
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dada, komputerda Uyghurche xet basqili bolamdu?
>>>>> - Bolidu.
>>>>> - Men elipbeni tugitip, sawadliq boldum. Uyghurche xet besip baqaymu?
>>>>> - Bolidu. Mana kompyuter.
>>>>> - Uyghurche A ni besip baqay.
>>>>> (7 yashliq qiz shu gepni digech, kunupkidin A ni basidu. Lekin
>>>>> ekrandiki H ni korup.)
>>>>> - Bu kompyuterning sawadi chiqmaptu, A ni bassam H chiqiwatidu.
>>>>> - Kompyuterda Uyghurche shundaq yasalghan, F ni bassingiz A chiqidu.
>>>>> - Qandaq sarang kompyuter bu? Qandaq sarang adem yasighan kompyuter bu?
>>>>> Bundaq sarang kompyuterda men Uyghurche xet basmaymen. Bundaq sarang
>>>>> kompyutergha yeqinmu kelmeymen.
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Qolida tamgha tutiwalghan munasiwetlik ashu danishmenler yuqurdiki
>>>>> dialogni oqup baqsa, ozlirining Uyghurlargha, Uyghur Til-Yeziqigha qanchilik
>>>>> ziyankeshlik qiliwatqanliqini bileligudek eqli bolsa, hush-kallisini
>>>>> silkiwetsun. Bolmisa sesiq nami tarix-betide miqlinip qalidu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Her qetim mushu ishni oylisam, yurigim echishidighan bolghachqa, bu
>>>>> heqte yene qaynap qaldim. Meningche kunupka ishida, eyni waqitta ULY
>>>>> otturigha chiqqandek, oz yolimizda tewrenmey algha qarap mangsaq, melum bir
>>>>> mezgil otkendin keyin, xelq-awam haman toghra nersige egishidu.
>>>>> Kopchilikning mushu nuqtini yene oylinip beqishini otinimen.
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Abdusalam Abdurahman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Regards,
>>> Abdusalam Abdurahman
>>>
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> Abdusalam Abdurahman
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