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[Ilya Haykinson <haykinson@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well, as a simple example, the German language is also spoken in Austria,
Switzerland, a number of smaller countries, and hundreds of thousands of
others around the world who live in places that do not follow laws of
Germany. Just like the English edition is really an "international" edition,
so are all the other language editions.

I will bring this all up when we speak with CC.

-ilya

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Daniel Schury <Surst@xxxxxxx> wrote:

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> Should we? I'm not an expert in this thing, but why not for example use
> the german port for germany? Parts of this license quote german laws,
> not american, which seems quite reasonable for me?
>
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> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Daniel Schury
>
> Am 04.03.2010 20:36, schrieb Ilya Haykinson:
> > The versions that you get from the international page are the ported
> > licenses for particular jurisdictions
> > We should be using the unported license most likely
> >
> > I will get on a call later this week or next week with the CC folks and
> > figure this out
> >
> > -ilya
> >
> > 2010/3/4 Martin Lukeš <martin.meridius@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:martin.meridius@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >
> >     As you can see from my previous post I used translation directly
> >     from Creative Commons. Other translators should do the same I think.
> >     In case there isn't translated license the original English will be
> >     used. And since we won't translate license text by ourself I see no
> >     reason why we should inform them.
> >
> >     Translated licenses from Creative Commons are here
> >     http://creativecommons.org/international/
> >
> >
> >     ---
> >     Regards
> >     Martin Lukeš
> >     P.S.: Please keep the communication history
> >
> >
> >     On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Elan Kugelmass
> >     <epkugelmass@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:epkugelmass@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >         Can we look into sending this upstream to CC? They might want to
> >         have their lawyers look at our translations. This is legalese,
> >         after all.
> >         Though, given the absence of translated licenses in the first
> >         place, they might not have the staff in place to check our work.
> >
> >
> >         2010/3/3 Kevin Godby <godbyk@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:godbyk@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >             2010/3/3 Martin Lukeš <martin.meridius@xxxxxxxxx
> >             <mailto:martin.meridius@xxxxxxxxx>>:
> >             > Hi Kevin
> >             > I pushed Czech translation from
> >             > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/cz/legalcode
> >             and I put it to
> >             > backmatter/ directory under name license-cs.tex
> >             > I also tried to do a bit of a LaTeX formating on it and as
> >             far as I could
> >             > see (thanks to "Make translated PDF" - great button) it
> >             looks fine.
> >
> >             Great -- thanks!
> >
> >             > If I may have a question...
> >             > Do you plan to edit "Make translated PDF" button so it
> >             will automatically
> >             > select appropriate license file? If not present, then it
> >             would use original
> >             > (English) file.
> >
> >             Yes. As soon as Launchpad lets me push this code, it'll use
> >             the proper
> >             license file and fall back on English if it doesn't have a
> >             particular
> >             translation.
> >
> >             > And second, but I don't know if it isn't more question for
> >             Josh. As if there
> >             > will be an extra .tex file for translated license then
> >             Roseta probably
> >             > shouldn't ask for its translation again. If this is doable
> >             of course. ;)
> >
> >             I *think* that the way I've done it may hide the license
> >             text from the
> >             translation software so it won't know anything about it.
> >              I'm going to
> >             add a note to translators in the license.tex file.  We'll
> >             see how it
> >             works soon. :-)
> >
> >             --Kevin
> >
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