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[Martin Lukeš <martin.meridius@xxxxxxxxx>]

Do we already know anything about licenses?

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Regards
Martin Lukeš
P.S.: Please keep the communication history


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Ilya Haykinson <haykinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well, as a simple example, the German language is also spoken in Austria,
> Switzerland, a number of smaller countries, and hundreds of thousands of
> others around the world who live in places that do not follow laws of
> Germany. Just like the English edition is really an "international" edition,
> so are all the other language editions.
>
> I will bring this all up when we speak with CC.
>
> -ilya
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Daniel Schury <Surst@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
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>> Should we? I'm not an expert in this thing, but why not for example use
>> the german port for germany? Parts of this license quote german laws,
>> not american, which seems quite reasonable for me?
>>
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>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>> Daniel Schury
>>
>> Am 04.03.2010 20:36, schrieb Ilya Haykinson:
>> > The versions that you get from the international page are the ported
>> > licenses for particular jurisdictions
>> > We should be using the unported license most likely
>> >
>> > I will get on a call later this week or next week with the CC folks and
>> > figure this out
>> >
>> > -ilya
>> >
>> > 2010/3/4 Martin Lukeš <martin.meridius@xxxxxxxxx
>> > <mailto:martin.meridius@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >
>> >     As you can see from my previous post I used translation directly
>> >     from Creative Commons. Other translators should do the same I think.
>> >     In case there isn't translated license the original English will be
>> >     used. And since we won't translate license text by ourself I see no
>> >     reason why we should inform them.
>> >
>> >     Translated licenses from Creative Commons are here
>> >     http://creativecommons.org/international/
>> >
>> >
>> >     ---
>> >     Regards
>> >     Martin Lukeš
>> >     P.S.: Please keep the communication history
>> >
>> >
>> >     On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Elan Kugelmass
>> >     <epkugelmass@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:epkugelmass@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Can we look into sending this upstream to CC? They might want to
>> >         have their lawyers look at our translations. This is legalese,
>> >         after all.
>> >         Though, given the absence of translated licenses in the first
>> >         place, they might not have the staff in place to check our work.
>> >
>> >
>> >         2010/3/3 Kevin Godby <godbyk@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:godbyk@xxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >
>> >             2010/3/3 Martin Lukeš <martin.meridius@xxxxxxxxx
>> >             <mailto:martin.meridius@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>> >             > Hi Kevin
>> >             > I pushed Czech translation from
>> >             >
>> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/cz/legalcode
>> >             and I put it to
>> >             > backmatter/ directory under name license-cs.tex
>> >             > I also tried to do a bit of a LaTeX formating on it and as
>> >             far as I could
>> >             > see (thanks to "Make translated PDF" - great button) it
>> >             looks fine.
>> >
>> >             Great -- thanks!
>> >
>> >             > If I may have a question...
>> >             > Do you plan to edit "Make translated PDF" button so it
>> >             will automatically
>> >             > select appropriate license file? If not present, then it
>> >             would use original
>> >             > (English) file.
>> >
>> >             Yes. As soon as Launchpad lets me push this code, it'll use
>> >             the proper
>> >             license file and fall back on English if it doesn't have a
>> >             particular
>> >             translation.
>> >
>> >             > And second, but I don't know if it isn't more question for
>> >             Josh. As if there
>> >             > will be an extra .tex file for translated license then
>> >             Roseta probably
>> >             > shouldn't ask for its translation again. If this is doable
>> >             of course. ;)
>> >
>> >             I *think* that the way I've done it may hide the license
>> >             text from the
>> >             translation software so it won't know anything about it.
>> >              I'm going to
>> >             add a note to translators in the license.tex file.  We'll
>> >             see how it
>> >             works soon. :-)
>> >
>> >             --Kevin
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