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Re: Music app.
I want separated players. That's it. If anyone is willing to create support
for that, or if everyone likes it I could support it. But I much rather
have them split. We have a beautiful video player already. Also I'm a user
who uses separated players, just as you use one. And I get it. Just not in
my wish list.
Den 8 mar 2013 13:16 skrev "Joey Jiao" <joey.jiaojg@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Why it's just music player. I use mplayer/smplayer on desktop. I believe
> it should be better multi player? Meanwhile wish it support FM and plugins
> for all possible multimedia.
> 在 2013-3-8 下午8:02，"Zisu Andrei" <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx>写道：
>
>> Uhm... we should probably standardise a mailing list naming convention
>> across core-apps, which is why I think this should be discussed as a
>> different email here on the list.
>>
>> I suggest starting a bit more abstract then that, based on a few
>> use-cases and scenarios. This way, by the time you get to designing things,
>> you have a rough idea of what you should do.
>>
>> Zisu Andrei
>>
>>
>> On 8 March 2013 11:57, Daniel Holm <d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> First, I do think we should move the discussion away from here, so I'm
>>> off to the teams mail list from now on. I just sent out a mail, which I
>>> pasted below.
>>>
>>> Michael, I agree with you that we should probably be talking now first
>>> hand and writing it down. See the mail below.
>>>
>>> Zisu, agreed. Its better if we try to work together instead of having
>>> all these different projects. At least in the beginning. Although I might
>>> say that I want a separated music and video player. But remote things
>>> sounds nice. Using mod this would be easier.
>>>
>>> And about Umedia, I'm thinking about reusing, almost porting, the whole
>>> thing for this project. But this is a discussion for the team.
>>>
>>> Mail:
>>> Hi everyone and welcome,
>>>
>>> I think we should start of my deciding what we want this application to
>>> be. So I propose that everyone, who'd like, write down what features they
>>> want, and then we discuss these features and if we all agree with therm,
>>> create a blueprint and a goal.
>>>
>>> Features for the first release is primary focus, but features for later
>>> versions are welcome too, of course.
>>>
>>> What I want the player to do:
>>> * play music tracks of a diverse container from local device.
>>> * pause track, and use previous and next track.
>>> * being able to shuffle
>>> * Scrabble tracks
>>> * use slider to move quickly in the track
>>> * download and show album art automatically.
>>> * use playlists,create and edit them.
>>> * sort by artist, album and track
>>> * sound menu for global management.
>>>
>>> These are the features I could imagine for later on :
>>> * support for upnp
>>> * for ampache
>>> * groveshark/spotify.
>>> * YouTube support
>>> * lyrics
>>>
>>> Please share your ideas and create a base of our development.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Daniel
>>> Den 8 mar 2013 11:27 skrev "Zisu Andrei" <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I'm really new to QML and am still figuring out a lot of stuff, so my
>>>>> code is not beautiful..
>>>>
>>>> May I say hold your horses until we find a suitable architecture for
>>>> both the backend and the frontend? Mybalsamiq should probably do it for
>>>> both, and we can more easily follow discussions for each over there.
>>>>
>>>> For the backend side of things, I quite like mpd side of things rather
>>>> than plugging in to the low-level gstreamer. We should sketch out a
>>>> structure for it.
>>>>
>>>> For the front-end side of things, I think we should probably wait for
>>>> Canonical to publish their application and see where we can take it from
>>>> there, but we can definetely brainstrom until then.
>>>>
>>>> I see some nice ideas regarding remote control. We should probably
>>>> think about integrating controlling something with the phone and maybe
>>>> having the phone plugged into the tv and allowing it to be controller
>>>> (maybe a bluetooth keyboard).
>>>>
>>>> Also, we need to sort out the level of integration between the Music
>>>> Player and the Video player. I would quite like to see a very integrated
>>>> manner. Maybe even have them as one: Player (like VLC).
>>>>
>>>> Akash, what do you mean by global control? I'm thinking the same kind
>>>>> of global media buttons as in the sound indicator, is that what you mean?
>>>>
>>>> Someone asked a really interesting question regarding global control.
>>>> The way Ubuntu currently doess it is through DBus, displaying play/pause
>>>> and next track in the Sound menu. However, it seems like they have become
>>>> more like settings controls in Ubuntu Phone and I am not entirely sure how
>>>> they will look in 14.04. Maybe someone in Canonical can enlighten us on
>>>> this issue? My thought on this is, use the same pattern, as it goes nicely
>>>> with the other menus, like Messeging and the like.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Zisu Andrei
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 March 2013 08:43, Michael Zanetti <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 21:02:52 Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>>> > I set up a team on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~touchmusicapp
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not exactly sure what's the process for setting up such projects,
>>>>> but
>>>>> seems ok for me. I'll ask Michael Hall if its ok to proceed with this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there are some interesting ideas in this thread alread and we
>>>>> should
>>>>> start writing them down somewhere to decide what we want/need.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also this thread is growing quite big and I agree that it would make
>>>>> sense to
>>>>> move to a separate mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Br,
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>>> > Daniel Holm
>>>>> > IT Consultant
>>>>> > Web Developer
>>>>> > Student
>>>>> > d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > http://www.danielholm.se
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2013-03-07 18:41, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
>>>>> > > On 03/07/2013 02:38 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>>> > >> Hi Diego,
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> You are very much welcome to join if you like.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I can see that you got pretty far(!) with your UMedia. It looks
>>>>> good.
>>>>> > >> The thing that I'm most concerned about is just moving along
>>>>> Ubuntu's
>>>>> > >> UI guidelines. But the rest looks pretty much like the features
>>>>> and
>>>>> > >> all, that I'd like.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Yes, i agree the UI is not the best, i was thinking to redo that
>>>>> part
>>>>> > > also, i wasn't happy about the UI/UX
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Would you like to help out?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Of course, where is the team to join?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Daniel Holm
>>>>> > >> IT Consultant
>>>>> > >> Web Developer
>>>>> > >> Student
>>>>> > >> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > >> http://www.danielholm.se
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> 2013-03-07 18:29, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
>>>>> > >>> On 03/07/2013 02:22 PM, Sid Payton wrote:
>>>>> > >>>> Hey Michael,
>>>>> > >>>> Are you working on a Xbmc remote for Ubuntu Touch? That would be
>>>>> > >>>> great. Do you have a API to control XBMC? If so could you pass
>>>>> me a
>>>>> > >>>> copy? Thanks.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Am 07.03.2013 11:28 schrieb "Michael Zanetti"
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:
>>>>> michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>>> > >>>> Hey Jouni,
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Would be great to see those. I will most likely port over
>>>>> > >>>> PlayMee too and
>>>>> > >>>> could use some great design. Most likely I can reuse most
>>>>> of it
>>>>> > >>>> for Xbmcremote
>>>>> > >>>> too.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Cheers,
>>>>> > >>>> Michael
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 10:12:03 Jouni Helminen wrote:
>>>>> > >>>> > Hey guys,
>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>> > >>>> > We've done some nice new designs for a core music app at
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Canonical - we
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > could share these soon and see if it makes sense to use
>>>>> them as a
>>>>> > >>>> > starting point for the UI?
>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>> > >>>> > Thanks
>>>>> > >>>> > Jouni Helminen
>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>> > >>>> > Lead Designer
>>>>> > >>>> > Ubuntu Touch
>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>> > >>>> > On Thu Mar 7 02:32:52 2013, Akash wrote:
>>>>> > >>>> > > As far as global control of the app goes, i think we
>>>>> could
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> place
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > > something in the sound part of the system services!
>>>>> > >>>> > >
>>>>> > >>>> > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Veritatem Ignotam wrote:
>>>>> > >>>> > > I like where it's going. Good work!
>>>>> > >>>> > >
>>>>> > >>>> > > If you decide to go the MPD route, there's a small
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> daemon called
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > > mpdscribble which can do the last.fm <
>>>>> http://last.fm>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> <http://last.fm> reporting.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > > V.I.
>>>>> > >>>> > >
>>>>> > >>>> > > On 03/06/2013 08:53 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>>> > >>>> > >> Hi,
>>>>> > >>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> Lovely!
>>>>> > >>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> The code is up, and its quite simple - though it
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> doesn't really
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> do what I want it to yet..
>>>>> > >>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> I'm studying at the University of Gothenburg full
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> time, and this
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> app is kind of my free time project between books
>>>>> and
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> papers to
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> hand in, so I haven't had the time to submit any
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> images - until now:
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=71d2604924
>>>>> > >>>> bd
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> ad57493165cb4705b554
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=a057005a81
>>>>> > >>>> 3
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> 33026810a708842deaed6
>>>>> > >>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> The huge icon is just a place holder for a album
>>>>> cover.
>>>>> > >>>> > >> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>>> > >>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> Daniel Holm
>>>>> > >>>> > >> IT Consultant
>>>>> > >>>> > >> Web Developer
>>>>> > >>>> > >> Student
>>>>> > >>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> http://www.danielholm.se
>>>>> > >>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>>> > >> 2013-03-07 01:43, Akash skrev:
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Hey,
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I would love to start contributing on the music
>>>>> app too!
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> But i'm just wondering, before diving into
>>>>> actually
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> coding,
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> don't you want to design the UI and get an idea
>>>>> from the
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> community if it follows the guidelines or not?
>>>>> Yes we
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> could all
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> download the code and try running it ourselves to
>>>>> see
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> the UI but
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> i'm just wondering because its going to be easier
>>>>> to put
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> pictures of the app design :)
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Hi again,
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I've started on the UI and just done some
>>>>> small
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> stuff. I
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> created this in like two hours. I'm still
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> figuring out a lot
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> of things since I've never coded an app and
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> usually code web.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> But it's a lot of fun, so we'll see where it
>>>>> takes.
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> And perhaps it's better to use mpd, which was
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> said earlier.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> We'll have to code a cover downloader,
>>>>> srcobble
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> support and
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> more, though.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Anyways, here is my repo:
>>>>> > >>>> https://launchpad.net/musicapp
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Daniel Holm
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> IT Consultant
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Web Developer
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Student
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> http://www.danielholm.se
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Den mån 4 mar 2013 23:39:04 skrev Daniel
>>>>> Holm:
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Hi again,
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I've started to code on this application
>>>>> now.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> I don't
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> know if I should
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> set up a separate project on Launchpad,
>>>>> or what?
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> It's just a little piece of the UI, but
>>>>> hey -
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> it's a
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> start ;)
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I'd like some pointers since this is my
>>>>> first
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> application.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Daniel Holm
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> IT Consultant
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Web Developer
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Student
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> http://www.danielholm.se
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Den mån 4 mar 2013 20:13:11 skrev Daniel
>>>>> Holm:
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Hi again,
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> What a response! Wonderful!
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I was thinking of Rhythmbox since its
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> bundled with
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Ubuntu as default.
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> And you'll have the same playlists,
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> settings for eg.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Last.fm and such
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> things.
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I'd love to see this becoming the
>>>>> default
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> music app
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> in Ubuntu Touch,
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> and I'd gladly share the work with
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> wanting to
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> join.
>>>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I'll try to create a UI demo in Qt
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Creator later
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> > >>> this week, so I can
>>>>> > >>>> > >
>>>>> > >>>> > > --
>>>>> > >>>> > > Adrenaline Junkie
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> --
>>>>> > >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>> > >>>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone>
>>>>> > >>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>> > >>>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone>
>>>>> > >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Hi, some time ago i started a project intended to do a Music App
>>>>> to
>>>>> > >>> run on the desktop and the phone:
>>>>> > >>> https://github.com/saruneko/UMedia
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> You can see some videos of the app working here:
>>>>> > >>> http://www.saruneko.org/umedia
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> I don't know if you were considering something like that, i
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> > >>> add some code to that lately because i was busy with other stuff,
>>>>> > >>> but let me know if that could be of any use.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Regards!
>>>>>
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