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[Alan Miller <dralanmiller@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Octavian

I understand your argument, but if done correctly all these services would be in there in an acceptable way with a little thought on workflow.

Ubuntu will probably be most accepted in places like China where none of these core services apps are used (allowed)  anyway.
Facebook is not the biggest social network in the world, QQ in china is almost twice as big.

If I ruled the world….

Phone owner contact entry in the contact address book would be where I would define all the login details.
So 

User AGM
Photo.
Phone, Email, Skype, ICQ, Linkedin , QQ, Wechat, SIP, OSTEL, Securecloud, Silentcircle, PGP etc etc etc
Then put an icon beside each service defined.
When you sync you end up with all users showing what services they are on and with presence.

It has the advantage of being a single data object to protect (encrypt passwords etc)


Now when a message comes in it goes to the Messages UI (which is unified anyway) and when you press the message it will know how to send back the reply and the interface that comes up is based on what service is being expected..

Cant we use XML  or mobile html or something suitable ? I am avoiding saying HTML5 like what firefox OS proposes to solve these issues.

I think just adding "apps" just means it all ends up like an android phone and misses the point of the workflow of the phone concept.

All the "apps" would be in there, just presented in a different way.

Video from you tube would again just be a social feed, then you can do the same for news feeds etc.

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On 19 Mar, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Octavian Damiean <mainerror@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 03/19/2013 11:17 AM, Alan Miller wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All
>> Why not make a UNIFIED system and have these "services" in the back end
>> without the need to name them.
>> My email client does not need anyones permission when I add a gmail pop
>> account to it..
>> 
>> Like what adium does (as one example).
>> Blackberry Playbook address book was a very nice example of a unified
>> approach, especially how it merged linkedin with the contact details
>> with an icon for each service. I think Ubuntu needs to be similar but
>> with added presence (in the XMPP sense).
>> 
>> If you look at the phone  interface, all messages are already UNIFIED
>> into the UI in one place, so why do you need a separate app to be a twit ?
>> Stay with the concept of a generic Unified UI  front end that handles
>>  all the prettiness  and then have modules for each service behind it
>> and aggregate forward.
>> Its all going XMPP anyway.
>> There would be no branding issues if you did that, you just supply login
>> details to each service you wanted.
>> Just do not make them all separate named apps.
>> 
>> Presence could then be linked into the contacts details and then its a
>> simple setting to show users online etc for Skype, SIP, whatever…
>> I am personally tired of having 7 different messaging apps on my phone
>> when I could have one unified one that does it all.
>> 
>> On 19 Mar, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Benjamin Kerensa <bkerensa@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:bkerensa@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not trying to get them made by the community and as it stands they
>>> are core apps which is already a community effort. I'm simply trying
>>> to highlight that there are branding issues with third party services
>>> that need to be addressed.
>>> 
>> 
> 
> We've covered that already. It is because of user expectations. A new user expects a Twitter, Facebook or YouTube application what is easily identifiable as such.
> 
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