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Re: ownCloud app.
Great! So glad to hear this is moving ahead. Yep, point taken about
possible breakages. For me, I've been expecting to bork my install at
some point and have to wipe everything, or at the least to need to
reinstall owncloudcmd with every update. I've been pleasantly surprised
to find out that I've been more or less able to leave things in place -
at least for the moment. I'm aware this is more a hack than an end-user
solution, but great to find that something is possible at the moment.
Sounds like this mailing list is the go for owncloud - works fine for
me. Daniel, I'm looking forward to seeing this as a launchpad project.
For now, I'm going to have a go syncing my owncloud contacts manually,
and see what I come up with. I'll post back when I have something viable
On 15/08/14 22:18, Daniel Holm wrote:
Love the response!
First, I think we should stay here [the mail list ] for the moment.
Easier to find if others will google anything regarding this in the
future, and won't force a G+ account.
Also, thank you for all the pointers and info - I will take a closer
I will set up a project for this at launchpad and give you all a link
to start the actual development and discussion.
After that I will paint a picture of an idea how to do this, and until
then any ones ideas are welcome :)
Den 15 aug 2014 10:47 skrev "Michael Zanetti"
On Friday 15 August 2014 09:52:44 Oliver Grawert wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 15.08.2014, 09:34 +0200 schrieb Michael Zanetti:
> > Cool stuff.. I'm a bit worried that you're just lucky though.
> > sure if its a good idea to install something manually and
switch back to
> > OTA upgrades. But I'm no expert on OTA stuff. Maybe someone
else can shed
> > some light how to do such a thing more reliable.
> there are surely 100 non-obvious things that will break :)
> the obvious one is that after the first OTA your apt and dpkg
> are replaced with the ones from the image. so everything you
> is gone from them and the system will not know about them anymore.
> most likely your binaries will still be there (not much
> what you get by compiling stuff from source and running a "make
Ok. I don't see that much of an issue as such installed stuff won't be
upgraded by apt or OTA anyways. So not real need to keep it in the apt
database I guess.
> if your package registers with the system anywhere (i.e. a new
> plugin that registers with the system gstreamer database) this
> overwritten as well ...
This is obviously more critical, however in this particular case not
> if you don't install any complex things with only libs and binaries
> manual install and switching back to OTA will work. as soon as your
> packages interact with the system at installl time to register
> system configuration, this configuration will be removed by OTA
Hmm ok... So it seems that in cases where you really just install
(e.g. copying it to /usr/bin/) this is actually a viable option
break on OTA updates? That's great to know. I was always worried
modification in rw mode would very likely cause future OTA
upgrades to fail
and leave you with a broken system.
Thanks for the explanations Oli!
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