ubuntu-phone team mailing list archive

[Seth Ciango <seth.ciango@xxxxxxxxx>]

"Contributions aren't just limited to code. One of the things we've always
said from the beginning of Ubuntu is that all contributions are valuable.
It's not just the code contributions. The translations and documentation
and advocacy and events and asking and answering questions are all valued
just as much as code contributions." --Jane Silber

Unfortunately for Kirk, getting a straight answer out of Canonical seems
impossible right now. I think he and many other people would be content
with an honest, "I don't know. We're not certain right now." I hope the
communication improves soon. I understand that some people may not be
allowed to answer certain questions at the moment.

However, Kirk bought a $300+ phone and is wondering if he should keep it or
get a refund. So his inquiry is perhaps a little more time sensitive for
him, and I'm surprised that no one has responded.

Well, Kirk, I have not seen anybody confirm that the Meizu Pro 5 will
receive any meaningful updates in the future. It is a beautiful phone, but
it may not be fully functional for you and may never become your daily
driver. The bluetooth headset functionality does not work. It is fine for
listening to music but not for taking calls. If you are ok with that and
just want to tinker, then you'll be fine. If you want the phone to replace
your current phone as your daily driver, you may want a refund.

This bug report will give you more information on the headphone issue:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1590844

As you can see, the bug and the contributors have been abandoned and there
is no indication that the bug will ever be resolved or even worked on.

If the Meizu Pro 5 receives a snap-based distro upgrade, there is a good
chance that the bug and many other bugs will be resolved by the newer
kernel and newer software. As of right now, it looks like the programmers'
hands are tied, and they can not fix such a critical bug.


On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Kirk Turner <gameldar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I'm certainly interested to know what that state will be with the Meizu
> Pro 5... as I'm in the interesting position that I might get to choose in
> the next few days whether I get a replacement Pro 5 or a refund for mine
> which died a month after I bought it. I got a Flyme OS one and it was going
> to be my Christmas holiday project converting it to Ubuntu... but it died
> before I got the opportunity and so the Christmas project became tracking
> the postage back to China.
>
> I know there is talk about upgrading Flyme OS to be Nougat based this year
> - but would that necessarily see kernel upgrades (such that the phone will
> be able to run snaps)?
>
> I guess the related question is from others that have the Pro 5 if I was
> just very unlucky or others have had hardware issues? Everything I've read
> suggested they a solidly built phone.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kirk
>
> On 6 January 2017 at 01:26, Seth Ciango <seth.ciango@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Pat,
>>
>> Could you clarify something that others keep bringing up. Are the current
>> BQ and Meizu devices going to be left to wither on the vine when a Xenial
>> image is released or will users be able to flash and wipe their phones with
>> a new Xenial image?
>>
>> Is there a current phone on the market that is the target for future
>> Xenial development?
>>
>> Is there a current phone on the market that runs a partially functioning
>> Xenial image?
>>
>> You've probably answered these questions already, but there still seems
>> to be some confusion since it sounds like you are saying that ALL current
>> Ubuntu phones are End-of-Life and that no new phones currently exist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seth
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Pat McGowan <pat.mcgowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, <gareth.france@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with
>>>>
>>>>> the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use
>>>>> Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all for your patience
>>>>> Pat
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages we have had stating the
>>>> current logic and plans is all that was needed to keep everyone happy. If
>>>> we understand what is going on then nobody begins to worry about the
>>>> silence. Looking forward to every bit of it except having to find the money
>>>> to replace my phone!!
>>>>
>>>> Just one thing, several people have said the current phones won't
>>>> support the snaps but what about the M10 tablet?
>>>>
>>>
>>> We are working on a reference image for the M10 for development and
>>> testing work but this is not intended for "production" use at this point.
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Gareth
>>>>
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