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[Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx>]

Authenticate with a paired device, and use that to sign in to U1?

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 14:12, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content?
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos <thomas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like
>> >> x-rated
>> >> movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to watch recorded
>> >> movies accessible for all ages or other content.
>> >> Again, only logging in when you come to "dangerous" parts of the system
>> >> for young kids.
>> >> With metta, Chris
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:37, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ubuntu TV being desktop and having a TV mode seems to defeat the
>> >>> purpose
>> >>> of TV, it would complicate the whole experience.
>> >>>
>> >>> Multiple accounts would be good, probably necessary when working with
>> >>> Ubuntu One. I don't think it should ask for login at startup though as
>> >>> it
>> >>> slows down getting to content (Imagine realising you're about to miss
>> >>> Doctor
>> >>> Who and having to login into your TV?
>> >>> I'd prefer if it just booted into default mode, straight into channels
>> >>> and then people can log in if they want their stuff.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>> >>> <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was thinking about Ubuntu TV after seeing Alan Bells thoughts.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1) The TV is also a Big Screen.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I disagree with the idea that Ubuntu TV should only be TV. What I
>> >>>> would
>> >>>> like, is to have one TV-mode for actually watching TV, and another
>> >>>> for an
>> >>>> extra desktop thing. I think it would be nice if the "show desktop"
>> >>>> feature
>> >>>> was used for this. When you show the desktop, then your normal Unity
>> >>>> becomes
>> >>>> visible with the desktop Unity, etc. Hit the button again, and the
>> >>>> screen
>> >>>> fades back into TV mode.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2) User management.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ubuntu TV should support multiple users, for multiple reasons. One
>> >>>> good
>> >>>> reason is permissions. Parents should be able to choose which sites
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> channels their kids are allowed to watch and when. Kids of different
>> >>>> ages
>> >>>> should be able to watch different things. Some wives might want to
>> >>>> control
>> >>>> their husbands as well. ;)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Another thing is obviously favorite channels, bookmarks (which we
>> >>>> need
>> >>>> to come up with a better name for), personal applications and
>> >>>> settings. You
>> >>>> would also configure your personal devices, which would be recognized
>> >>>> automatically. (I'll get back to that)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When you "start" the TV, you should be presented with a login screen
>> >>>> which should be remote controllable using a standard remote (and
>> >>>> other
>> >>>> things). The default option would be to log in as Guest (perhaps
>> >>>> Viewer, or
>> >>>> something like that would be better). This account would have
>> >>>> restricted
>> >>>> access.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2) Controlling Ubuntu TV.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When you start the TV, you choose a user using a normal remote
>> >>>> control
>> >>>> or your phone using bluetooth. You would then be able to choose which
>> >>>> devices to use. For instance, I would bring my netbook and phone and
>> >>>> sit
>> >>>> down on my couch. I then pick up the remote control on the table (or
>> >>>> start
>> >>>> an app on my phone) and press the on-button. That displays a welcome
>> >>>> screen:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1) Guest
>> >>>> 2) Jo-Erlend
>> >>>> 3) Ima Nother
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  I press 2 to choose "Jo-Erlend" and then I'm displayed with a second
>> >>>> screen:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1) Enter your PIN using the remote control.
>> >>>> 2) Activate joe-netbook and joe-phone
>> >>>> 3) Only use joe-netbook
>> >>>> 4) Only use joe-phone
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This is where it gets interesting. I can log in using the remote
>> >>>> control, entering a PIN number I've chosen. This only provides access
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> watch TV and not other parts of the system, since a PIN doesn't
>> >>>> provide much
>> >>>> security, but sufficient to watch TV.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> However, that's boring. Instead, I choose to activate my netbook and
>> >>>> phone. These are discovered on the WLAN. If I activate my phone, then
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> remote control app is run on the phone which is then used as an input
>> >>>> device
>> >>>> and I can login using an onscreen keyboard. I can then use my real
>> >>>> password,
>> >>>> providing full access to my user account on the big screen. I would
>> >>>> use my
>> >>>> phone as a dynamic, touchbased remote control, with play controls and
>> >>>> lenses
>> >>>> to easily access content, but also get webfeed updates on it -- from
>> >>>> the TV
>> >>>> system, etc. I should be able to switch to desktop mode, and then the
>> >>>> phone
>> >>>> can be used as a mouse and an onboard keyboard.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Activating my netbook means the TV connects to it, and I can then use
>> >>>> my
>> >>>> laptops keyboard and touchpad as input units for the TV, providing me
>> >>>> with a
>> >>>> very big screen to do any kind of work, like a big spreadsheet or
>> >>>> anything.
>> >>>> This solution is already readily available in Synergy, which is
>> >>>> available
>> >>>> for OS X, Windows, GNU/Linux, meaning that any laptop can easily be
>> >>>> used for
>> >>>> this as long as Synergy is running on it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It would be nice if you could use tablets for this as well, at least
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> a mouse and keyboard for the TV, but the TV should also be able to
>> >>>> display
>> >>>> things on the tablet in that case.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you think?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>> >>>>
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>> >
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>> >
>>
>> Ugh. Can we get rid of the idea of logging into your TV? As we
>> discussed at UDS, nobody wants to login to the TV. It takes too long
>> and difficult to do on a remote. For age appropriate content, I say we
>> stick with the PIN idea. This should be an appliance, not a full
>> desktop replacement.
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Mashos
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