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Re: Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

 

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content?
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos <thomas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like
>> >> x-rated
>> >> movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to watch recorded
>> >> movies accessible for all ages or other content.
>> >> Again, only logging in when you come to "dangerous" parts of the system
>> >> for young kids.
>> >> With metta, Chris
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:37, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ubuntu TV being desktop and having a TV mode seems to defeat the
>> >>> purpose
>> >>> of TV, it would complicate the whole experience.
>> >>>
>> >>> Multiple accounts would be good, probably necessary when working with
>> >>> Ubuntu One. I don't think it should ask for login at startup though as
>> >>> it
>> >>> slows down getting to content (Imagine realising you're about to miss
>> >>> Doctor
>> >>> Who and having to login into your TV?
>> >>> I'd prefer if it just booted into default mode, straight into channels
>> >>> and then people can log in if they want their stuff.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>> >>> <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was thinking about Ubuntu TV after seeing Alan Bells thoughts.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1) The TV is also a Big Screen.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I disagree with the idea that Ubuntu TV should only be TV. What I
>> >>>> would
>> >>>> like, is to have one TV-mode for actually watching TV, and another
>> >>>> for an
>> >>>> extra desktop thing. I think it would be nice if the "show desktop"
>> >>>> feature
>> >>>> was used for this. When you show the desktop, then your normal Unity
>> >>>> becomes
>> >>>> visible with the desktop Unity, etc. Hit the button again, and the
>> >>>> screen
>> >>>> fades back into TV mode.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2) User management.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ubuntu TV should support multiple users, for multiple reasons. One
>> >>>> good
>> >>>> reason is permissions. Parents should be able to choose which sites
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> channels their kids are allowed to watch and when. Kids of different
>> >>>> ages
>> >>>> should be able to watch different things. Some wives might want to
>> >>>> control
>> >>>> their husbands as well. ;)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Another thing is obviously favorite channels, bookmarks (which we
>> >>>> need
>> >>>> to come up with a better name for), personal applications and
>> >>>> settings. You
>> >>>> would also configure your personal devices, which would be recognized
>> >>>> automatically. (I'll get back to that)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When you "start" the TV, you should be presented with a login screen
>> >>>> which should be remote controllable using a standard remote (and
>> >>>> other
>> >>>> things). The default option would be to log in as Guest (perhaps
>> >>>> Viewer, or
>> >>>> something like that would be better). This account would have
>> >>>> restricted
>> >>>> access.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2) Controlling Ubuntu TV.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When you start the TV, you choose a user using a normal remote
>> >>>> control
>> >>>> or your phone using bluetooth. You would then be able to choose which
>> >>>> devices to use. For instance, I would bring my netbook and phone and
>> >>>> sit
>> >>>> down on my couch. I then pick up the remote control on the table (or
>> >>>> start
>> >>>> an app on my phone) and press the on-button. That displays a welcome
>> >>>> screen:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1) Guest
>> >>>> 2) Jo-Erlend
>> >>>> 3) Ima Nother
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  I press 2 to choose "Jo-Erlend" and then I'm displayed with a second
>> >>>> screen:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1) Enter your PIN using the remote control.
>> >>>> 2) Activate joe-netbook and joe-phone
>> >>>> 3) Only use joe-netbook
>> >>>> 4) Only use joe-phone
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This is where it gets interesting. I can log in using the remote
>> >>>> control, entering a PIN number I've chosen. This only provides access
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> watch TV and not other parts of the system, since a PIN doesn't
>> >>>> provide much
>> >>>> security, but sufficient to watch TV.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> However, that's boring. Instead, I choose to activate my netbook and
>> >>>> phone. These are discovered on the WLAN. If I activate my phone, then
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> remote control app is run on the phone which is then used as an input
>> >>>> device
>> >>>> and I can login using an onscreen keyboard. I can then use my real
>> >>>> password,
>> >>>> providing full access to my user account on the big screen. I would
>> >>>> use my
>> >>>> phone as a dynamic, touchbased remote control, with play controls and
>> >>>> lenses
>> >>>> to easily access content, but also get webfeed updates on it -- from
>> >>>> the TV
>> >>>> system, etc. I should be able to switch to desktop mode, and then the
>> >>>> phone
>> >>>> can be used as a mouse and an onboard keyboard.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Activating my netbook means the TV connects to it, and I can then use
>> >>>> my
>> >>>> laptops keyboard and touchpad as input units for the TV, providing me
>> >>>> with a
>> >>>> very big screen to do any kind of work, like a big spreadsheet or
>> >>>> anything.
>> >>>> This solution is already readily available in Synergy, which is
>> >>>> available
>> >>>> for OS X, Windows, GNU/Linux, meaning that any laptop can easily be
>> >>>> used for
>> >>>> this as long as Synergy is running on it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It would be nice if you could use tablets for this as well, at least
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> a mouse and keyboard for the TV, but the TV should also be able to
>> >>>> display
>> >>>> things on the tablet in that case.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you think?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>> >>>>
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>> >
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>>
>> Ugh. Can we get rid of the idea of logging into your TV? As we
>> discussed at UDS, nobody wants to login to the TV. It takes too long
>> and difficult to do on a remote. For age appropriate content, I say we
>> stick with the PIN idea. This should be an appliance, not a full
>> desktop replacement.
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Mashos
>
>

Log in once, access content. No need to log in every time I want to use the TV.

Also, either

A) have a single U1 login (cause why would my wife and I both purchase
content on different U1 accounts?)
or
B) have multiple U1 accounts be logged onto at the same time (more
difficult, but they you could have differing content, playlists, etc)

-- 
Thomas Mashos


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