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["Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all,

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Alfredo Hernández <
aldomann.designs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> That's a great idea, Ali.
>
Oh, glad that my mind is still working :P


> 15.10 would be a perfect place to let everyone know we've changed our
> branding; it might seem like forcing the new logo in everyone's throats,
> but at the end it will do more benefit than harm.
>

Myself and Tim made it super clear :D
It is your call, Artwork team and we just shared our opinion about it ;)

But, if you guys will vote to add that wallpaper as the default one, or
among the default, make sure not to repeat it with the coming cycles :P
hehe

> PS. We have super exciting ideas for 16.04 that will be developed further
> when time comes.
>

Yes, I know because I do have the power to read minds :P
But, I'd suggest or I'd say: dazzle me NOW during this cycle and let's
worry about 16.04 later on :D
Chasing two rabbits will get you none!


> Cheers,
> Alfredo
> On 2 Aug 2015 10:21 pm, "Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>


>
>>>
>>> On 02/08/15 19:23, Patrik Bubák wrote:
>>> > Hey Tim,
>>> >
>>> > the reason behind this wallpaper being branded is part of introducing
>>> one of the major changes to the distribution - the change of the logo.
>>> > We always can, however, include it without it being the default and
>>> people can opt to use it from the backgrounds menu.
>>> I'm not convinced that plastering the new logo across everyones desktops
>>> will help this much, people will make the association pretty quickly
>>> once they see the plymouth screen, and then presumably a logo on the
>>> login screen.
>>
>>
>> Just to let you all know, I do see the point of both Tim and Patrik here
>> and I do agree with both at the same time. However, I attend to agree with
>> Tim's point more. For me, I do hate (to be super honest) to see a logo on
>> the default wallpaper BUT it won't kill us nor anyone if we shall do it for
>> once, only. That means, for 15.10 only :)
>>
>> With 16.04, the default wallpaper should have no logo nor Ubuntu GNOME in
>> there, IMHO.
>>
>>
>>
>>> But really that is just my opinion and its up to you guys to
>>> make the actual decisions on this.
>>>
>>
>> Yes.
>> The reason why there is an Artwork Sub-Team is to do each and everything
>> related to Ubuntu GNOME Artwork. Myself and Tim can only share our opinion
>> ;)
>> We do trust you guys so please, dazzle us!
>>
>> Even for planning, I don't really have to do your homework :P
>>
>>
>>> >
>>> > On the other hand it's nothing uncommon - Xubuntu does the same. Many
>>> of their blueish wallpapers have been featuring the logo in the past and
>>> > continue to do so today.
>>> And many distros have moved away from doing this, in fact ubuntu itself
>>> was probably one of the first to go with a recurring theme, but not
>>> plastered with branding.
>>>
>>
>> @Artwork Team.
>> I strongly agree with Tim here. I do hate to copy others. I was born
>> original, I won't die as a copy.
>> It is okay to learn from others and get inspired but doing the same as
>> they do? that is now how/where I want to see Ubuntu GNOME is heading :)
>>
>>
>>
>>> >
>>> > For Plymouth we have something more subtle to smoothen the transition.
>>> I think when I say this I speak for everyone, that we don't want to
>>> > disrupt the current paradigm too much, but slight cosmetic upgrades
>>> here and there won't hurt anyone, conversely, we believe users would
>>> > welcome them, since the default Gnome setup seems quite dated and most
>>> users change most stuff after install (wallpapers, icons, themes...).
>>> the GNOME wallpapers have evolved significantly over the last couple of
>>> years, if they were still using the blue blinds of the 3.8 era, then I
>>> would call them dated.  But that is pretty irrelevant to this
>>> discussion, I have no issue with us using a different wallpaper(s).
>>>
>>
>> I agree with Tim, yet again.
>>
>>
>>
>>> >
>>> > To give you a better idea of what we were thinking about I'm attaching
>>> a screenshot. It has not yet been decided, but we're talking about it.
>>> Now that we have systemd init, it might be possible to use a proper
>>> progress indicator (i,e 0 - 100%), rather than the recurring/cycling dots. I
>>> know fedora do this. The problem before with upstart was that we never
>>> accurately knew how far through the boot we were.
>>>
>>
>> Great idea and yet again, you're scaring me Tim :P stay away from by
>> brain, dammit hehe :P
>>
>> In short, I am sick and tired of the dots :P
>>
>>
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 19:12 +1000, Tim wrote:
>>> >> Hi Patrik,
>>> >>   That looks awesome, however I am not really a fan of having branded
>>> wallpapers, but really its the artwork's team call on whether to use it.
>>> >> Perhaps you could use some variant of it for the plymouth (boot)
>>> screen?
>>> >>
>>> >> Tim
>>> >>
>>> >> On 02/08/15 08:07, Patrik Bubák wrote:
>>> >> > Gents,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I would be thrilled if this <
>>> https://www.behance.net/gallery/28367327/Icy-Abstract> would be our
>>> official welcome screen (default) wallpaper
>>> >> > in the upcoming release. It's a modified version of the previous
>>> one I sent you, a lot cooler, a lot more powerful.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Enjoy...
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from
>>> Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call
>>> it the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one
>>> >> > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is
>>> going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on
>>> >> > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from
>>> Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop>
>>> >
>>> > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it
>>> the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one
>>> > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is
>>> going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on
>>> > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
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