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[Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 03/08/15 11:40, Alfredo Hernández wrote:
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> That's a great idea, Ali. 15.10 would be a perfect place to let everyone know we've changed our branding; it might seem like forcing the new
> logo in everyone's throats, but at the end it will do more benefit than harm.
>
Alfredo, I'm curious as to what benefit you think it will achieve? Its not like people won't be exposed to the new logo anyway via boot screen,
login screen, ubiquity slideshow, social media, website, release notes and most likely random news sites etc. I can't possibly imagine, that any
user could completely miss the fact that the logo has changed, regardless of if its on the wallpaper or not?
>
> PS. We have super exciting ideas for 16.04 that will be developed further when time comes.
>
> Cheers,
> Alfredo
>
> On 2 Aug 2015 10:21 pm, "Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>
>
>         On 02/08/15 19:23, Patrik Bubák wrote:
>         > Hey Tim,
>         >
>         > the reason behind this wallpaper being branded is part of introducing one of the major changes to the distribution - the change of
>         the logo.
>         > We always can, however, include it without it being the default and people can opt to use it from the backgrounds menu.
>         I'm not convinced that plastering the new logo across everyones desktops will help this much, people will make the association pretty
>         quickly
>         once they see the plymouth screen, and then presumably a logo on the login screen. 
>
>
>     Just to let you all know, I do see the point of both Tim and Patrik here and I do agree with both at the same time. However, I attend to
>     agree with Tim's point more. For me, I do hate (to be super honest) to see a logo on the default wallpaper BUT it won't kill us nor anyone
>     if we shall do it for once, only. That means, for 15.10 only :)
>
>     With 16.04, the default wallpaper should have no logo nor Ubuntu GNOME in there, IMHO.
>
>      
>
>         But really that is just my opinion and its up to you guys to
>         make the actual decisions on this.
>
>
>     Yes.
>     The reason why there is an Artwork Sub-Team is to do each and everything related to Ubuntu GNOME Artwork. Myself and Tim can only share
>     our opinion ;)
>     We do trust you guys so please, dazzle us!
>
>     Even for planning, I don't really have to do your homework :P
>      
>
>         >
>         > On the other hand it's nothing uncommon - Xubuntu does the same. Many of their blueish wallpapers have been featuring the logo in
>         the past and
>         > continue to do so today.
>         And many distros have moved away from doing this, in fact ubuntu itself was probably one of the first to go with a recurring theme,
>         but not
>         plastered with branding.
>
>
>     @Artwork Team.
>     I strongly agree with Tim here. I do hate to copy others. I was born original, I won't die as a copy.
>     It is okay to learn from others and get inspired but doing the same as they do? that is now how/where I want to see Ubuntu GNOME is heading :)
>
>      
>
>         >
>         > For Plymouth we have something more subtle to smoothen the transition. I think when I say this I speak for everyone, that we don't
>         want to
>         > disrupt the current paradigm too much, but slight cosmetic upgrades here and there won't hurt anyone, conversely, we believe users would
>         > welcome them, since the default Gnome setup seems quite dated and most users change most stuff after install (wallpapers, icons,
>         themes...).
>         the GNOME wallpapers have evolved significantly over the last couple of years, if they were still using the blue blinds of the 3.8
>         era, then I
>         would call them dated.  But that is pretty irrelevant to this discussion, I have no issue with us using a different wallpaper(s).
>
>
>     I agree with Tim, yet again.
>
>      
>
>         >
>         > To give you a better idea of what we were thinking about I'm attaching a screenshot. It has not yet been decided, but we're talking
>         about it.
>         Now that we have systemd init, it might be possible to use a proper progress indicator (i,e 0 - 100%), rather than the
>         recurring/cycling dots. I
>         know fedora do this. The problem before with upstart was that we never accurately knew how far through the boot we were.
>
>
>     Great idea and yet again, you're scaring me Tim :P stay away from by brain, dammit hehe :P
>
>     In short, I am sick and tired of the dots :P
>      
>
>         >
>         > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 19:12 +1000, Tim wrote:
>         >> Hi Patrik,
>         >>   That looks awesome, however I am not really a fan of having branded wallpapers, but really its the artwork's team call on whether
>         to use it.
>         >> Perhaps you could use some variant of it for the plymouth (boot) screen?
>         >>
>         >> Tim
>         >>
>         >> On 02/08/15 08:07, Patrik Bubák wrote:
>         >> > Gents,
>         >> >
>         >> > I would be thrilled if this <https://www.behance.net/gallery/28367327/Icy-Abstract> would be our official welcome screen
>         (default) wallpaper
>         >> > in the upcoming release. It's a modified version of the previous one I sent you, a lot cooler, a lot more powerful.
>         >> >
>         >> > Enjoy...
>         >> > --
>         >> > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop>
>         >> >
>         >> > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice
>         cream with one
>         >> > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people
>         don't agree on
>         >> > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.
>         >> >
>         >>
>         >
>         > --
>         > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop>
>         >
>         > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream
>         with one
>         > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people
>         don't agree on
>         > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.
>         >
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>
>     Best Regards,
>     Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>
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