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[Sunil Singh Rana <sunil.rana@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry I think I didn't make myself clear enough.
About the circular button I meat the circular shape of the buttons. I think
their design being circular is not consistent with the rest of the design
of the unity. Which has more squarish throughout.

I agree with the global menu bar for maximized window is a great idea; but
the point I raised was for non-maximized windows. Its nice to have the
windows control available on the ( un-maximized) window it self; but for
the windows menu one still have to traverse the mouse pointer to the top
bar.
I think it would be better to have windows menu also on the (un-maximized)
window itself.

I got the idea of the design.


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 23:18, Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > So far consistency is concerned I never felt that the circular windows>
> controls consistent with any part of unity.
>
> They're used to control the dash. You can't make the Dash full screen
> without them.
>
> They integrate the window controls into the panel for maximized
> windows because they integrate the menu bar and title bar into the top
> panel. Doing this saves nearly 50 pixels of vertical screen real
> estate, which is nice on large monitors, and huge on smaller screens
> like netbooks. Giving the Dash window controls simply makes it more
> consistent with the rest of Unity.
>
> Transparent panels blend in with the dash, and make it feel more like
> an extension of the panel and launcher, which it is. With the dash
> open and full screen, it feels like a single sheet draped over the
> screen since everything blends together seamlessly. Visually, it's
> very pleasing.
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 13:44, Sunil Singh Rana <sunil.rana@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 18:05, Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I mean that the panel is now disconnected from the rest of Unity. With
> the
> >> panel at the bottom, there's no reason for the panel to turn
> transparent.
> >> There's no reason for the Dash's window controls to be in the panel.
> Having
> >> the launcher on the left side is important, because without that,
> several
> >> other points in unity simply don't make any sense.
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >                May I please request to make those several other points of
> > Unity more clear.
> > Please forgive my ignorance.
> >
> > I agree that there in no reason for the window controls to be in the
> panel.
> > I personally think there is no reason for any window that is not
> maximized
> > to have controls and menus on the top panel. It makes unnecessary mouse
> > travels; though I can understand it might me useful for small form
> factors.
> >
> > I also never understood the philosophy behind making panels transparent
> when
> > dash is called -- please forgive my ignorance once again.
> >
> > So far consistency is concerned I never felt that the circular windows
> > controls consistent with any part of unity.
> >
> > Personally I don't know much of advantages of having panel in left apart
> > from having more vertical space. But I see the challenges it presents to
> > make a consistent design.
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 30, 2011 8:16 AM, "Omar B." <estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> what do you mean "it doesnt work"?
> >>>
> >>> you just looked at the first screen and havent tried it.
> >>>
> >>> here are more screens:
> >>>
> >>> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=171694.0
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html
> >>>
> >>> but its still in dev of course.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > From: isantop@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:04:03 -0700
> >>> > To: sunil.rana@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> > CC: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom
> >>> >
> >>> > What happens to the top panel with the launcher at the bottom? What
> >>> > about the Dash window controls? Without sticking the top panel on the
> >>> > left, I don't see how this design works.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:01, Sunil Singh Rana <
> sunil.rana@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > > I think its a great idea. Design can be modified so that it remain
> >>> > > consistent if some user chooses it to be on bottom. I don't really
> >>> > > see much
> >>> > > philosophy behind the current design; for example: I don't know why
> >>> > > the top
> >>> > > panel or left panel have to have the grey transparent visual effect
> >>> > > when
> >>> > > dash is called. I wouldn't mind if the dash shows itself in the
> >>> > > center of
> >>> > > the screen, without blocking the menus and controls of the previous
> >>> > > in-focus
> >>> > > application. In the later case, I would be able to drag and drop
> from
> >>> > > the
> >>> > > dash to any side of the screen, and the design would look more
> >>> > > symmetric.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sunil
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 18:45, Swapnil Bhartiya
> >>> > > <swapnil.bhartiya@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 11/29/2011 05:55 PM, Christian Rupp wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> I know it was discussed several times, but a plug-in finally got
> it
> >>> > >>> working:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Should we include it in one of ubuntu next releases as a easy to
> >>> > >>> activate option
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On second thoughts I believe, it's a good idea (gives some
> >>> > >> customisation
> >>> > >> to users). Once at the bottom it will be just like Apple Mac's
> dock.
> >>> > >> A good
> >>> > >> thing may be the option to place the launcher anywhere you want -
> >>> > >> left/right
> >>> > >> or bottom.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> swapnil
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
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> >>> > >
> >>> > >
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> >>> > > practice
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> > सुनील राणा
> >
> > "Unselfishness is more paying only people have not the patience to
> practice
> > it."
> >
> > " 'I love you' is a wrong sentence as where, there exist 'I' and 'you'
> love
> > can not. Love is an attribute of the absolute."
>
>
>
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> Ian Santopietro
>
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-- 
सुनील राणा

"Unselfishness is more paying only people have not the patience to practice
it."

" 'I love you' is a wrong sentence as where, there exist 'I' and 'you' love
can not. Love is an attribute of the absolute."