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[Ryan Gauger <rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'm for Zeitgeist if it is not a default setting, one that can be turned on by the user if preferred. But loading all apps on the launcher, how about apps with viruses that users have installed from non-official repositories? If the user knows that the app has a virus and is in the launcher (maybe the user doesn't want to remove it because of laziness, etc)? I understand that there are VERY few Linux apps that have viruses, but there are those that do, and therefore, the computer is less-safe.

In Christ,
Ryan

On May 27, 2012, at 8:52 AM, supernova <supernova.it@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Yes Nekhelesh you are right. For example ubuntuone is on the launcher
> by default, but it isn't surely one of the most used apps, in the
> sense that after having configured it properly, you don't need to open
> it so often...
> 
> Supernova
> 
> 2012/5/27 Nekhelesh <krnekhelesh@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> @Callum Saunders, you are right..however I think this feature should be
>> optional rather than being forced on the user. i am sure there are
>> users out there who appreciate Ubuntu because of the fact that the
>> login to the desktop is much faster than bloated windows desktop. Also
>> making an assumption that applications in the launcher are the ones
>> used the most is not always accurate. I have seen some desktops in
>> google+ (showyourdesktopfriday) where there are some times so many
>> applications pinned to the launcher. Having them all preload would
>> drastically increase the login time..Instead perhaps the first five
>> launcher applications can be preloaded or otherwise use Zeitgeist which
>> is a proven fact.
>> 
>> On Sun 27 May 2012 03:38:34 PM CEST, Callum Saunders wrote:
>>> That way the perception of speed would only happen after enough usage
>>> has happened to work out the most used apps, I think for now apps in
>>> the launcher would be sufficient that way the first apps users are
>>> likely to try after installing Ubuntu would be the fastest.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Nekhelesh <krnekhelesh@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:krnekhelesh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>     How about using Zeitgeist to help with this? Currently using the
>>>     Privacy manager you can see the frequency of usage of applications. So
>>>     there could a settings which if users enable will preload their most
>>>     commonly used applications (based on zeitgeist). This way you give the
>>>     user the choice to preload or not , and also the preloading of
>>>     applications is done dynamically based on usage.
>>> 
>>>     Thoughts?
>>> 
>>>     On Sun 27 May 2012 02:25:59 PM CEST, Omar B. wrote:
>>>     > Well LibreOffice has an option called *systray Quickstarter* in
>>>     > options > memory.
>>>     >
>>>     > which barely uses memory (even on lower end systems) but loads
>>>     LO very
>>>     > fast.
>>>     >
>>>     > something like that can be used for this app (if its frequently
>>>     used I
>>>     > suppose).
>>>     >
>>>     > also I believe google chrome stays in memory and is why it
>>>     launches so
>>>     > fast.
>>>     >
>>>     > as for this topic maybe is better to discuss the details in the
>>>     > suggested list.
>>>     >
>>>     > > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 12:56:56 +0100
>>>     > > From: shaneymail@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:shaneymail@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>     > > To: supernova.it@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:supernova.it@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>     > > CC: unity-design@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>     <mailto:unity-design@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>     > > Subject: Re: [Unity-design] proposal for making ubuntu really
>>>     faster
>>>     > >
>>>     > > It may speed up the launching of apps, which is a good thing
>>>     but would
>>>     > > also slow down login would it not?
>>>     > >
>>>     > > I'm not sure it's worth a longer login in order to load apps
>>>     faster
>>>     > > that might not even be launched during a particular session.
>>>     > >
>>>     > > Also, what affect would having these apps launched and using
>>>     up RAM
>>>     > > have on lower end systems?
>>>     > >
>>>     > > On 27 May 2012 11:30, supernova <supernova.it@xxxxxxxxx
>>>     <mailto:supernova.it@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>     > > > 2012/5/27 Matt Richardson <m.richardson.1990@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>     <mailto:m.richardson.1990@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>     > > >> I like the idea but I don't think there is any need to
>>>     leave the
>>>     > program
>>>     > > >> running.
>>>     > > >> The first time I run Nautilus, it takes about 8 seconds to
>>>     load.
>>>     > Firefox is
>>>     > > >> about 5 and LibreOffice is about 10.
>>>     > > >> After that, Nautilus takes approximately 1 second, and
>>>     Firefox and
>>>     > > >> LibreOffice take around 1.5. (These are all just me timing with
>>>     > my watch,
>>>     > > >> nothing accurate here)
>>>     > > >>
>>>     > > >> Maybe we could load those three and then close them; or at
>>>     least
>>>     > we could
>>>     > > >> load the critical components of each so that the users only
>>>     ever
>>>     > see the
>>>     > > >> latter speeds.
>>>     > > >>
>>>     > > >> Also, this subject is probably off-topic for this list and
>>>     > probably wants to
>>>     > > >> go to ubuntu-dev
>>>     > > > ok, thanks,
>>>     > > > Supernova
>>>     > > >>
>>>     > > >> Matt
>>>     > > >>
>>>     > > >>
>>>     > > >> On 27/05/12 10:53, supernova wrote:
>>>     > > >>>
>>>     > > >>> I got this idea: let's start automatically the icons on
>>>     the launcher
>>>     > > >>> at login, or at least the most used (I know preload and so
>>>     on...) as
>>>     > > >>> nautilus, firefox, libreoffice. This will give the
>>>     perception of
>>>     > fast
>>>     > > >>> start at the first click.
>>>     > > >>> So as you log in nautilus will be opened and reduced to
>>>     icon on the
>>>     > > >>> launcher. When a user clicks on nautilus icon, it will open as
>>>     > fast as
>>>     > > >>> it was reduced to icon, and not as if we had to open it
>>>     for the
>>>     > first
>>>     > > >>> time.
>>>     > > >>> What do you all think?
>>>     > > >>>
>>>     > > >>> Well, it won't make Ubuntu run faster, but will give
>>>     perception
>>>     > of it,
>>>     > > >>> but in some sense, world is perception and appearance...
>>>     > > >>>
>>>     > > >>>
>>>     > > >>> Supernova
>>>     > > >>>
>>>     > > >>
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