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Re: Worrying nautilus development direction, New default file manager?
>A) Patch Nautilus to have his HUD support back
>B) Help Marlin dev(s) to improve Marlin (stability and drawing the desktop)
>Surely there can be a new file manager built from scratch, but then again that ain't that simple, is it? :)
Hmm ...
A) Marlin was buid from scratch using Gnome 3 technologies.
B) Any new build from scratch file manager - will cross the same
stages as Marlin does now - therefore at first few bugs of the new
file manager some other peoples will request a new file manager. Do
not expect and don't even think that for the version 0.0.1 any new
file-manager will work perfect - many bugs that users will fire on the
new build from scratch file-manager will come probably from GTK
components - but 80% users will burn the file-manager so the story
will continue on in circles.
C) It is much more rational to help Marlin / Nautilus to improve
themselves then to build and build again from scratch.
I'm afraid that Marlin is much more open to conversation than Nautilus
- this is why my vote goes with Marlin.
Nautilus is too fixed on Gnome 3 developers unique view regarding
Usability and desktop metaphor (which in my honest opinion is the
totally wrong way...)
In interesting Idea - why Marlin should Draw the desktop ?
I never understood why Nautilus draw the desktop - changes to the
desktop icons or related things - are reflected in the Nautilus
settings which is not convenient
Why not a Desktop Manager in a separate process - with clear defined
attributes - separated from the file manager - this way users can set
up their desktop as they want and the changes will not affect File
manager preferences.
Of course in a separate process this desktop manager can use file
manager functionality (rendering icons / arrange icons / etc)..
2012/7/19 Georgi Karavasilev <motorslav@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Well, to be honest whilst the new Nautilus does fix the horrible chopped
> down toolbar, which was causing all kinds of issues with most of the themes
> (light-themes included) and the back and forward are where they should be -
> on the left it causes two problems:
> A) It has no menubar, but rather a super menu gear button on the right,
> hence no HUD support
> B) Tree view and extra pane have been removed
> Marlin is no way near stable and can't even draw the desktop (which is
> essential for Unity), so at its current state it can't be considered an
> alternative, so the simplest solutions I see are:
> A) Patch Nautilus to have his HUD support back
> B) Help Marlin dev(s) to improve Marlin (stability and drawing the desktop)
> Surely there can be a new file manager built from scratch, but then again
> that ain't that simple, is it? :)
>
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Worrying nautilus development direction, New default file manager?
From: Brandon Watkins, 2012-07-03
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Re: Worrying nautilus development direction, New default file manager?
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Re: Worrying nautilus development direction, New default file manager?
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Re: Worrying nautilus development direction, New default file manager?
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Re: Worrying nautilus development direction, New default file manager?
From: Brandon Watkins, 2012-07-18
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Re: Worrying nautilus development direction, New default file manager?
From: Georgi Karavasilev, 2012-07-18
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Re: Worrying nautilus development direction, New default file manager?
From: Brandon Watkins, 2012-07-18
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Re: Worrying nautilus development direction, New default file manager?
From: Georgi Karavasilev, 2012-07-19