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[Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, matthew byers <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Paultag W00T!!
> Well for the most part we have...
> i vote for codendi Project Management System
> tenach votes for turning whube.com into what we need in the form of a
> customized pms catered to the needs of whube.
> As myself, tenach and DW were discussing last night, we have the tools in
> place right now to make the team effective but they arent being utilized.
> From my eyes i was wanting a central hub where we all can work/communicate
> and tenach wants the same but basically by using whube.com as our 'hub' that
> holds on the links needed for whube. Tenach can better explain because it
> sounds as if im jacking his idea all up so ill shut up here! LOL. Simply put
> i vote for a PMS...whether it be codendi or whube.com customized to what we
> need from a pms viewpoint...we just need SOMETHING!! :P
> DW is currently reviewing all aspects and planning out something for the
> team also! W00T!!

Sick, awesome. Just tell me what I need to do after ya'll figure out
where you want this to go

-Tag


> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> This is some good conversation right here.
>>
>> I agree, we are a mess. So, let's work this out.
>>
>> both tenach and stlsaint -- come up with a ( short ) gameplan ( each )
>> and we'll use those to make the decision on where to go. I think it's
>> good to review all the choices we can.
>>
>> -Tag
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:49 AM, matthew byers <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > I fully agree with ya! Majority input takes precedence!
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin
>> > <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A project management system is just one way to go about it.  If the
>> >> majority of the team wanted to use one, I would be for it.  It really
>> >> comes
>> >> down to what the team wants vs. what the individual wants.
>> >>
>> >> Thomas Plastino Martin
>> >> https://launchpad.net/~tenach
>> >> http://tenach.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:16 PM, matthew byers
>> >> <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Alright so if we are not going to go with idea of a pms than
>> >>> we definitely need a "central" hub of location. As you said, mailing
>> >>> list,
>> >>> irc, lp, git, docs, all these have different uses and yet we really
>> >>> don't
>> >>> interact as a team. Docs team wont talk to devs, etc etc. But then
>> >>> again we
>> >>> do have irc so maybe that can be our communication but what if
>> >>> decisions are
>> >>> made there when someone isn't there?? Tenach brings up a valid point
>> >>> of
>> >>> turning whube.com into something more for our hub. I like the idea of
>> >>> customizing and developing whube.com to be our tools/info page. But i
>> >>> will
>> >>> say this for the last time is that in my mind, a pms is looking real
>> >>> handy
>> >>> right now but i have no shame in learning the best practices for a
>> >>> team.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin
>> >>> <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> According to Launchpad, we use it for 'Answers'
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thomas Plastino Martin
>> >>>> https://launchpad.net/~tenach
>> >>>> http://tenach.net
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin
>> >>>> <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://bugs.whube.com - our own bug tracking.
>> >>>>> http://github.com/whube/whube - our source code versioning
>> >>>>> http://launchpad.net/whube - blueprints, and some other stuff. I'm
>> >>>>> confused about LP (for whube and in general).
>> >>>>> http://docs.whube.com - A wiki for documentation and other
>> >>>>> whube-related information
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> These are all that I know of besides my +1 version of Whube at
>> >>>>> http://bugs.thescoundrels.org
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thomas Plastino Martin
>> >>>>> https://launchpad.net/~tenach
>> >>>>> http://tenach.net
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM, David Wonderly
>> >>>>> <david.wonderly@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ok, as I was saying I need the locations of all of the Status
>> >>>>>> reports,
>> >>>>>> TODO
>> >>>>>> List, tasking etc we have littered throughout the place. If you
>> >>>>>> have a
>> >>>>>> created
>> >>>>>> anything regarding this please send it to me. :)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -DW
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:27:08 pm Thomas Plastino Martin
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > I've never until today heard of Codendi (Codeni is completely
>> >>>>>> > different and
>> >>>>>> > not related to project management).  It looks interesting.
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > We have docs.whube for wiki/documentaiton, we have launchpad for
>> >>>>>> > blueprints
>> >>>>>> > and other things, whube itself for bug tracking... I think we
>> >>>>>> > need
>> >>>>>> > to use
>> >>>>>> > what we have instead of looking for a larger project to use.
>> >>>>>> >  Between
>> >>>>>> > those, IRC and this list, I think we can obtain any goals we set
>> >>>>>> > for
>> >>>>>> > ourselves.  We just need to apply ourselves to more "doing", and
>> >>>>>> > not
>> >>>>>> > just
>> >>>>>> > talking about doing.
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > Thomas Plastino Martin
>> >>>>>> > https://launchpad.net/~tenach <https://launchpad.net/%7Etenach>
>> >>>>>> > http://tenach.net
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, matthew byers
>> >>>>>> <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>> >>>>>> > > Alright so i would like to nominate: Codeni community version.
>> >>>>>> > > It
>> >>>>>> > > is full
>> >>>>>> > > of modifiable features and is stable. I really like the idea of
>> >>>>>> > > a
>> >>>>>> > > "all in
>> >>>>>> > > one" type of system which is why i like the larger
>> >>>>>> > > applications.
>> >>>>>> > > But as i
>> >>>>>> > > spoke with tenach who has more experience in this area than i
>> >>>>>> > > do
>> >>>>>> > > he
>> >>>>>> > > pointed out that maybe we dont need the large applications. But
>> >>>>>> > > i
>> >>>>>> > > cant
>> >>>>>> > > help but notice all the features the larger platforms offer. I
>> >>>>>> > > am
>> >>>>>> > > a fan
>> >>>>>> > > of the wiki/doc additions, plus the repository feature as the
>> >>>>>> > > GIT
>> >>>>>> > > module
>> >>>>>> > > is added to the new release of codeni. I have attached the
>> >>>>>> > > brochure
>> >>>>>> > > explaining more on this option. Either way i feel we need
>> >>>>>> > > something. Be
>> >>>>>> > > it collabtiv or codeni or whatever. Whube needs some
>> >>>>>> > > organization!!!
>> >>>>>> > >
>> >>>>>> > >
>> >>>>>> > > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin <
>> >>>>>> > >
>> >>>>>> > > thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> Ah, Redmine! I totally forgot about that Rails app.  We were,
>> >>>>>> > >> for
>> >>>>>> > >> about
>> >>>>>> > >> four months, using Redmine as our main project management
>> >>>>>> > >> system
>> >>>>>> > >> in my
>> >>>>>> > >> business.  We had migrated over from Trac which was not
>> >>>>>> > >> fitting
>> >>>>>> > >> our
>> >>>>>> > >> needs. While Redmine had some awesome features and it was
>> >>>>>> > >> working
>> >>>>>> > >> pretty well for us, it had a lot of excess built right in.  I
>> >>>>>> > >> do
>> >>>>>> > >> not
>> >>>>>> > >> know exactly what was causing it, but either Redmine and/or
>> >>>>>> > >> Ruby
>> >>>>>> > >> on
>> >>>>>> > >> Rails was not working as it should, and I often found myself
>> >>>>>> > >> having to
>> >>>>>> > >> fix Redmine so we could continue to log in and use it.  After
>> >>>>>> > >> four
>> >>>>>> > >> months we migrated to Collabtiv, which was much smaller in
>> >>>>>> > >> terms
>> >>>>>> > >> of
>> >>>>>> > >> built in features, but suited us a little better. We used that
>> >>>>>> > >> up
>> >>>>>> > >> until
>> >>>>>> > >> we split, and now I don't really use any yet.
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> >>>>>> > >> If we were to go this route, I'd vote for Collabtiv unless we
>> >>>>>> > >> find
>> >>>>>> > >> something better.
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> >>>>>> > >> Thomas Plastino Martin
>> >>>>>> > >> https://launchpad.net/~tenach
>> >>>>>> > >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Etenach>
>> >>>>>> > >> http://tenach.net
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> >>>>>> > >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:47 PM, matthew byers
>> >>>>>> <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >>> This issue occured to me today as i was going through some
>> >>>>>> > >>> whube
>> >>>>>> > >>> pages
>> >>>>>> > >>> in my bookmarks and realized i had over 6 seperate pages of
>> >>>>>> > >>> whube
>> >>>>>> > >>> stuff trying to juggle. Thus the idea of project management
>> >>>>>> > >>> came
>> >>>>>> > >>> up
>> >>>>>> > >>> and tenach felt the same way i did. Though i dont speak for
>> >>>>>> > >>> everyone i
>> >>>>>> > >>> feel as if those who are not direct devs of whube are not in
>> >>>>>> > >>> the
>> >>>>>> > >>> loop
>> >>>>>> > >>> as to the "status" of whube. And i really dont know when its
>> >>>>>> > >>> my
>> >>>>>> > >>> turn
>> >>>>>> > >>> as the wiki guy to jump in and turn out some docs. With some
>> >>>>>> > >>> sort of
>> >>>>>> > >>> project management system we all can be on one accord  as
>> >>>>>> > >>> tenach
>> >>>>>> > >>> has
>> >>>>>> > >>> already described. Doing some research i came across redmine
>> >>>>>> > >>> and
>> >>>>>> > >>> though i have never used it it looks really feature rich.
>> >>>>>> > >>> http://www.redmine.org/
>> >>>>>> > >>> http://www.redmine.org/wiki/redmine/Features
>> >>>>>> > >>> With redmine we manage repos from git and other version
>> >>>>>> > >>> controls, setup
>> >>>>>> > >>> wiki/docs, track bugs and whube feature additions, assign
>> >>>>>> > >>> teams/roles
>> >>>>>> > >>> and we do this all in one location as they get organized and
>> >>>>>> > >>> setup
>> >>>>>> > >>> then when they are all pretty and ready for the world we
>> >>>>>> > >>> migrate
>> >>>>>> > >>> them
>> >>>>>> > >>> to their appropriate web pages: ie: bugs.whube, docs.whube,
>> >>>>>> > >>> etc.
>> >>>>>> > >>> We
>> >>>>>> > >>> already have a project manager so he can head up the project
>> >>>>>> > >>> management system! Just my thoughts....
>> >>>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>>> > >>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin <
>> >>>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>>> > >>> tenach@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >>>> Hello everyone,
>> >>>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> We need to organize Whube in a serious manner.  At present
>> >>>>>> > >>>> we
>> >>>>>> > >>>> do not
>> >>>>>> > >>>> have a solid goal for the future past our list for DD.  This
>> >>>>>> > >>>> team is
>> >>>>>> > >>>> growing and now we're in need of some sort of system in
>> >>>>>> > >>>> place
>> >>>>>> > >>>> where
>> >>>>>> > >>>> we can all stay 'in the loop'.  So far we have docs.whube,
>> >>>>>> > >>>> bugs.whube
>> >>>>>> > >>>> and Launchpad.  I think that we need to start actively
>> >>>>>> > >>>> putting
>> >>>>>> > >>>> our
>> >>>>>> > >>>> team organization together, so that we all know who is doing
>> >>>>>> > >>>> what,
>> >>>>>> > >>>> where we're going, etc.
>> >>>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> stlsaint suggested using a project management system like
>> >>>>>> > >>>> Pier.
>> >>>>>> > >>>>  I
>> >>>>>> > >>>> have only really worked with Trac and Collabtiv, both of
>> >>>>>> > >>>> which
>> >>>>>> > >>>> I am
>> >>>>>> > >>>> not too fond of (I prefer Collabtiv over Trac any day
>> >>>>>> > >>>> though).
>> >>>>>> > >>>>  I
>> >>>>>> > >>>> think it might be a good idea, though I was under the
>> >>>>>> > >>>> impression we
>> >>>>>> > >>>> were going to use Launchpad for team stuff, such as
>> >>>>>> > >>>> milestones/blueprints/whatnot.  However, this confuses me.
>> >>>>>> > >>>> Launchpad
>> >>>>>> > >>>> is confusing too.
>> >>>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> Anyway.  What are we going to do?
>> >>>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> * We need to have an outline for the future of Whube.
>> >>>>>> > >>>> * We should state clearly how we are going to use Launchpad,
>> >>>>>> > >>>> and use
>> >>>>>> > >>>> it as such.
>> >>>>>> > >>>> * There is more, but I do not remember off the top of my
>> >>>>>> > >>>> head
>> >>>>>> > >>>> at the
>> >>>>>> > >>>> moment.
>> >>>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> Whube has potential to be awesome, we just need to realize
>> >>>>>> > >>>> the
>> >>>>>> > >>>> path
>> >>>>>> > >>>> and figure out exactly how we are going to go about it.  I
>> >>>>>> > >>>> think that
>> >>>>>> > >>>> the days of freeform coding are (mostly) over, at least
>> >>>>>> > >>>> until
>> >>>>>> > >>>> we have
>> >>>>>> > >>>> a solid understanding of everyone's contributions.
>> >>>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.  Hopefully I'm not
>> >>>>>> > >>>> way
>> >>>>>> > >>>> off
>> >>>>>> > >>>> base with this.
>> >>>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> Thomas Plastino Martin
>> >>>>>> > >>>> https://launchpad.net/~tenach
>> >>>>>> > >>>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Etenach>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> http://tenach.net
>> >>>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________
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