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Re: [Ayatana] "Hybrid" (panel/launcher) top left corner button
I just corrected an error in my proposal and registered a blueprint:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/unity-shell/+spec/top-left-corner
Eylem
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:21 PM, André Oliva <gandreoliva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> But with the current design, since window controls are at the corner, when I
> make the launcher always visible, it looks very inconsistent. Window
> controls look like they're part of the launcher... At least, when the
> launcher is always visible, the Ubuntu button should extend to the top left
> corner...
>
> I also think that there has to be some visual element that reminds somehow
> how the launcher can be invoked and how to invoke dash also. (Not sure it's
> a good example, but like "Activities" in Gnome 3)
>
> The solution of a corner button that "grows" for me is the best, because you
> have really an element that is visually very distinct (part of the top panel
> and part of the launcher)... And it's simple.
>
>
>
> 2011/8/30 Eylem Koca <eylemkoca@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Ian,
>> Do you think my proposal in the previous message could address those
>> issues?
>> I think it would but I'm no expert...
>>
>> Eylem
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > Because the window controls should have gone in the corner, and the
>> > Usability testing did show that people were clicking on the top icon in
>> > the
>> > launcher to try and open the dash.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:34, Eylem Koca <eylemkoca@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> OK, sorry, I got it wrong it seems. But then, why oh why did the
>> >> Ubuntu button have to leave the top left corner? If it did not look
>> >> like a button, then make it like a button, not displace it. The OP
>> >> includes a very good mockup for example:
>> >> http://sites.google.com/site/gandreoliva/hybridbutton
>> >>
>> >> I really really think that moving the Ubuntu button out of the
>> >> very-top-left-corner is a huge mistake.
>> >>
>> >> If you really have to place the window control buttons to the
>> >> very-top-left-corner, then I have a proposal. This just popped into my
>> >> mind, and goes like this:
>> >>
>> >> - Make the Launcher cover the whole left edge, going over the top
>> >> panel at the top left corner. The Ubuntu button (whatever the design)
>> >> is at the top of the Launcher.
>> >> - When the cursor is not directed to the top panel, the Launcher shows
>> >> or hides according to normal behavior (dodge, autohide, etc).
>> >> - If the Launcher is showing, the window controls on the left of the
>> >> top panel are hidden, the active-app name (and title?) is displayed on
>> >> the top panel (starting from where the window controls would end) and
>> >> the appmenu is hidden.
>> >> --- While the Launcher is showing, IF THE CURSOR HITS THE TOP PANEL
>> >> BEFORE IT HITS THE LAUNCHER, then the Launcher hides, the window
>> >> controls and the appmenu is displayed on the top panel and the user
>> >> can interact.
>> >> --- While the Launcher is showing, the user can activate Dash by
>> >> either clicking on the Ubuntu button or by pushing the cursor to top
>> >> left corner (second part should be a user configurable option).
>> >> - If the Launcher is somehow hidden, and the cursor is NOT on the top
>> >> panel, the window controls are replaced by an Ubuntu logo (monochrome
>> >> ala 11.04), followed (towards right) by the active-app name (and
>> >> title?). Note: this Ubuntu logo is not clickable.
>> >> --- While the Launcher is hidden, IF THE CURSOR FIRST HITS THE TOP
>> >> PANEL BEFORE IT HITS THE LEFT EDGE, then the window controls and the
>> >> appmenu is displayed on the top panel and the user can interact.
>> >> --- While the Launcher is hidden, IF THE CURSOR HITS THE LEFT EDGE
>> >> FIRST, the Ubuntu logo on top gracefully grows into a button of its
>> >> own, while (at the same time) the Launcher fades and/or slides into
>> >> view (very nice visual attractions can be achieved here). Once the
>> >> Launcher is shown, the user can click anywhere outside, at which
>> >> instant, the Launcher and the Ubuntu button fade out of view kind of
>> >> in a reverse visual effect.
>> >>
>> >> (If anyone can make a mockup of this, I'd really appreciate it)
>> >>
>> >> I strongly suggest that Canonical and other decision makers consider a
>> >> design of this sorts, and not move the Ubuntu button completely out of
>> >> the very-top-corner. I'm certain a compromise (as above suggestion)
>> >> that is clever ans usable can be achieved between window controls and
>> >> Ubuntu button.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas
>> >> <mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
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>> >> > Eylem Koca wrote on 27/08/11 03:49:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The current design is justified by the motivation to move the window
>> >> >> control buttons to the top left.
>> >> >> Apparently, the usability tests for 11.04 design showed that the
>> >> >> window controls are better on the top left, so they moved the Ubuntu
>> >> >> button out of that location.
>> >> >>...
>> >> >
>> >> > No, the usability test didn't show anything like that. (How could it
>> >> > have, when the test environment used only one placement?)
>> >> >
>> >> > What it did show was that, except for a bug, everyone managed to
>> >> > close a
>> >> > window. However, 4 of 11 people clicked the Me menu thinking it might
>> >> > be
>> >> > the close button.
>> >> >
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