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[meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx>]

Here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/971356

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:14 AM, meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Bertrand Rousseau
> <bertrand.rousseau@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:30 AM, meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> When I was looking at usability, one thing that struck me about workview was
>>> that tasks scheduled for other days days automagically disappear from it.
>>> IMO the user should somehow be informed of that by the name of the view,
>>> otherwise it's disconcerting.
>>
>> Could you please file a bug about this?
>
> Sure, will do.
>
>>
>>> I think it's bad practice to design by consensus, though, so personally I
>>> wouldn't ask users to decide.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>>> Meg
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012, Radina Matic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Meg seems to be the only native English speaker among us...
>>>>
>>>> How about we launch a poll at GTG blog and ask the users what do they
>>>> prefer?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Radina
>>>>
>>>> PS: Apart from this legal connotation, for me personally "actionable" is a
>>>> mouthful, like having to chew on an oversized gum... :P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 22:27, meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Actionable" is used in the book as an adjective ("Is it actionable?"
>>>>> p. 51 of the 2001 English edition), but as a title, you would be
>>>>> implying that it was a noun, which it is not. The primary meaning of
>>>>> the adjective is the legal meaning
>>>>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/actionable. Is there any
>>>>> place you see it used in the book as a noun? I see "Next Actions", and
>>>>> "actionable tasks" (as Bertrand mentioned) but not "Actionable". Also,
>>>>> "actionable tasks" is never used as a category or header in the book,
>>>>> perhaps because of the ambiguity surrounding this use of the English
>>>>> term.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Bertrand Rousseau
>>>>> <bertrand.rousseau@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> > 2012/4/1 meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>> >> The primary definition of "Actionable"  in English a legal term
>>>>> >> meaning that
>>>>> >> you can get sued/criminally tried for doing what you are doing, though
>>>>> >> :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Well, we sure don't want to imply that our users perform tasks for
>>>>> > which they may be sued. ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm not an English native speaker, so as far as I am concerned, my
>>>>> > first encounter with the word "actionable" was through GTD and task
>>>>> > management. Could you (and anyone who knows) tell us if using this
>>>>> > term is misleading?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> The timeline approach to simplifying complex tasks is outlined by
>>>>> >> Brett
>>>>> >> Victor in this article (http://worrydream.com/#!/MagicInk).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Meg
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2012/4/1 Izidor Matušov <izidor.matusov@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Am 01.04.2012 06:15, schrieb meg ford:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> Also, on the subject of subtasks, do you think it would be
>>>>> >>>> interesting
>>>>> >>>> to have a "Timeline" view where users could add and view subtasks as
>>>>> >>>> connected to specific tasks? Rather than defining them as a "thing",
>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>> >>>> could organize a larger task as consisting of smaller tasks, and
>>>>> >>>> combine
>>>>> >>>> it with the calendar function (so users would be adding and editing
>>>>> >>>> subtasks, maybe by drag and drop) along a line that contained the
>>>>> >>>> main
>>>>> >>>> task, and wouldn't have to use separate actions to define when, etc.
>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>> >>>> not sure how to accomplish this in GTK, but I think it would be nice
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> allow the user to define many aspects of their tasks simply,
>>>>> >>>> treating
>>>>> >>>> each task as an object rather something which is defined through a
>>>>> >>>> complicated series of  actions via drop-down menus, pop-up windows,
>>>>> >>>> etc.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> There is a bug/feature request for that:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/495475
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> We need somebody who designs and implements that ;)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>    Can these actions be called "To Do"? That would go along with the
>>>>> >>>>    name (To Do and Task Manager), and the HIG says that strings
>>>>> >>>> should
>>>>> >>>>    be as short as possible.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I am against calling them "To Do". Every active task is "To Do" but
>>>>> >>> we
>>>>> >>> want to say that you can do it right now. In my opinion, we should
>>>>> >>> stick to
>>>>> >>> "Actionable" from GTD or "Next Action" from other ToDo managers.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Bertrand Rousseau
>>>>>
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>> --
>> Bertrand Rousseau