kicad-developers team mailing list archive

[easyw <easyw@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Marcos and Cirilo,

1) DXF can be fully supported only if the DXF is in R12 version
With R12 version and the recent patch of Marco Hess (already committed), 
it is possible to import also ellipses

As Cirilo pointed out, opening the file with LibreOffice and then saving 
it (better in R12 version) will solve the problem.

I suggested a patch to add to the DXF import menu the info:
 (R12 fully supported, units mm)
so users will have this info immediately...
[ documentation is not always read by users :) ]
https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg18735.html

but the patch was not committed

Anyway about the reworking of Marco's board...
DXF is fine now...

2) STEP models orientation depends only of the use of FreeCAD 0.16 
develop version (which not reliable nor suggested also from FreeCAD 
developers)
If you open your models in FC 015 and save them everything will be fine.

3) fusion with colors works also in FC016...
I'm going to send you a screenshot of what I do to fuse with colors...

I'm almost done ... I will send you the models correctly oriented and 
fused in single part...

I will strongly suggest you to build a copy of FC015, so to avoid errors 
or mechanical probs.

keep in touch
Maurice


On 19/08/2015 18.52, Marcos Chaparro wrote:
> Hi Maurice,
>
> > 1) could you please send me also the board with only these 3 modules (usb,
> > qfn, pogo_pin)? (no net, just edge and 3 modules would be fine)
> > it would be easier check the probs
>
> You'll find the design files here
> https://github.com/paltatech/std-mainboard
>
> In my computer the 3D files are in
> /usr/local/share/kicad/modules/packages3d/walter/step/
>
>
> 2) fusion with color is possible in FC 015 and 016 ... I'm going to send
> > the X2QFN-12 fused with color asap ... wich command do you use?
> > Part, Make a union of several parts?
>
> I'm using part->make compound (in part workbench)
> or part->boolean->union (also in part workbench)
>
>
>
> > 4) could you please send me also a copy of the trouble pcb edge (no net no
> > modules), to check if the problem is in kicad exporting to IDF or in
> > importing IDF from FC
>
> Also included in the github repo. The outline was imported from a DXF file
> generated with freecad. The 3Dviewer displays it correctly, but I think the
> error is in the DXF importer because "Global spread and place" -> "spread
> out footprints not already on board" didn't detect the outline, so it
> probably has a disconnected segment somewhere and 3DViewer is flexible
> enough to display it despite the errors
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> > thank you
> > Maurice
> >
> > On 19/08/2015 17.13, Marcos Chaparro wrote:
> >
> > > About the USB connector, don't follow the original part from the
> > > manufacturer, it took me a while to align it.
> > >
> > > Here is the step and vrml of that connector. Its the same manufacturer
> > > step, but aligned.
> > > http://www.paltatech.com/files/USB-C.zip
> > > and the connector footprint:
> > > http://www.paltatech.com/files/USB-C-DX07S.kicad_mod
> > >
> > > The IDF export is not the problem, trying with a simpler outline
> > > generates the pcb okay but the parts are still rotated.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > Marcos
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Marcos Chaparro <nitrousnrg@xxxxxxxxx
> > > <mailto:nitrousnrg@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >
> > >      Hi Maurice,
> > >      I just compiled the latest kicad version and the script says
> > >      IDF board has to be exported to Xref=0; Yref=0
> > >      pcbnew version >=6091
> > >      IDF board has NOT to be exported to real placement
> > >      pcbnew version < 6091
> > >
> > >      Anyway, the board is perfectly aligned now, thanks!
> > >
> > >      I'm using kicad Version: (2015-08-18 BZR 6103)-product release build
> > >      and freecad 0.16
> > >
> > >      I do have a question, the tutorial says "assure that your STEP
> > >      module is fused to just one solid object". I see it failing with
> > >      multi part obejcts, but I don't know how to fuse a part properly in
> > >      freecad.
> > >
> > >      A boolean operation between parts (union) creates a "fusion" object
> > >      that loses color information.
> > >      Going through "make compound" in the part workbench seems to be the
> > >      right way to do it, but the script is still not happy with the
> > >      generated step file and in freecad you can see its not a single
> > > object.
> > >
> > >      See attached an example of a part that I can't fuse together
> > >      (X2QFN). I think there are no coplanar faces in the part.
> > >
> > >
> > >      Also, pogo_pin.step looks fine to me in freecad, but when it is
> > >      added to a board using the script it gets rotated. Its also attached
> > >      http://www.paltatech.com/files/pogo_pin_in_freecad.png
> > >      http://www.paltatech.com/files/USB-C_3dviewer.png
> > >      http://www.paltatech.com/files/USB-C_stepup.png
> > >
> > >      The usb connector that is also rotated is here
> > >
> > > http://www.jae.com/z-en/product_en.cfm?l_code=EN&series_code=DX07&product_number=DX07S024JJ2R1300
> > >
> > >      I'm also having throubles exporting the pcb to IDFv3 of this
> > >      particular board, maybe this is related to these rotation issues. I
> > >      should ask cirilo later about this.
> > >
> > >      Thanks