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[Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx>]

the problem is most of the python bundling crap is in patches (and
yeah it is a bit hackish) wwas passed off to adam for testing but he
never came back. but its also reliant on the python build not being
broken. It is also as unhackish as it will get due to how cmake works,
althought we MAY be able to push something upstream to cmake to fix
DUE to the python bundling guidelines released by apple but i don't
know whether they give a damn about them. and whats required to follow
apples guidelides re python bundling.



On 17 March 2017 at 10:35, Bernhard Stegmaier <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> As I said before, I plan to work on the whole python packaging stuff as discussed below if no one else volunteers to do before.
> I had some look around on how to do this, but I didn’t find any out-of-the-box solution which could be integrated quickly.
> Unfortunately, I am still busy with other (non KiCad) things and it will still take a few weeks until I can start working on it (I hope during easter holidays)…
>
>> On 16 Mar 2017, at 22:08, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I'm of two minds on this. On one hand, I'd like to disable scripting on
>> the macOS nightlies until it's fixed, so macOS users still *have*
>> nightlies. On the other hand, I worry that doing so will remove
>> motivation to actually fix it.
>>
>> Is anyone actually _actively working on a fix_? I keep seeing chatter
>> about this, but no actual attempts to fix it.
>>
>> Honestly I think the patch that broke the build should be reverted until
>> a fix can be prepared, but considering who submitted it, I doubt I'll
>> have any say there.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 04:56:14PM -0400, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
>>> I agree 150% with Bernhard.
>>>
>>> A disabled Python is 150% better than no new build at all.
>>>
>>> I do not understand why OS X users are considered second class citizens.
>>>
>>> Just my $0.02,
>>> Jean-Paul
>>> N1JPL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 16, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Bernhard Stegmaier <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have just seen people on the forum complaining that OSX nightlies still don’t build.
>>>>
>>>> @Simon:
>>>> Do you intend to push your changes, no matter how hackish?
>>>> Might at least be a start to work with.
>>>>
>>>> Or, just disable python scripting at all until the whole python bundling has been sorted out?
>>>> Having no python scripting is better than having no build or a build where it doesn’t work right...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bernhard
>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Feb 2017, at 18:56, Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have previously sent a patch to adam for testing that bundled
>>>>> python. but it was a bit hackish as since python is a system lib
>>>>> bundleutilies doesn't copy it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 February 2017 at 21:28, Bernhard Stegmaier
>>>>> <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21 Feb 2017, at 00:31, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/20/2017 6:27 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-02-20 23:48 GMT+01:00 Bernhard Stegmaier <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is this done on Windows?
>>>>>> You also don’t have a global filesystem with one Python there where you just
>>>>>> copy it into the right place… where does the Windows installer put those
>>>>>> files and how do you use them from some installed Python? Are there issues
>>>>>> with library paths of the library dependencies that come with KiCAD when
>>>>>> used from an external Python?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not aware of any issues with it on windows, but I don't really use
>>>>>> windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People have requested to include pip with the windows install, and
>>>>>> that is done now, so I assume that at least something works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure if the user uses the shell inside pcbnew or calls the
>>>>>> python bundled with the installer. The file system layout is basically
>>>>>> as on linux, just inside the install destination folder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would something like this work on osx rather than trying to fit into an
>>>>>> existing python install?  It might prove to be more reliable.  At least
>>>>>> you would always have a known python build.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that’s probably the only way to do it in a safe way for the bundle
>>>>>> (and, as Adam said how Apple requires it).
>>>>>> Currently only wxPython packages and the pcbnew .so are copied into the
>>>>>> bundle.
>>>>>> There is no (matching) python installation contained/copied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This seems to be sufficient to at least run the python console from inside
>>>>>> pcbnew with some external python installation - if the python version used
>>>>>> to build the bundle and the one on the target system are compatible.
>>>>>> However, the last time I tried it the python console was really unusable for
>>>>>> me, because you couldn’t even type some keys (menu hotkeys always trigger
>>>>>> the menu action).
>>>>>> Don’t know if that has been fixed meanwhile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I think this whole python stuff needs a big overhaul on macOS for both
>>>>>> types of scripting.
>>>>>> I will work on it when I have some spare time.
>>>>>> If someone else is going to work on that please drop me a note, so that we
>>>>>> don’t do it twice…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Bernhard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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