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Message #35701
Re: [RFC]: New non copper pad paste and mask clearances behavior V2
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To:
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From:
Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date:
Fri, 4 May 2018 08:45:19 -0400
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JP,
If you are OK with Jeff's proposal, please push your patch so we can get
some more testing on this before the v5 release.
Thanks,
Wayne
On 5/3/2018 4:39 PM, Jeff Young wrote:
> I’m happy to clean up the dialog if JP wants to check in what he has.
> Just let me know….
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>> On 3 May 2018, at 19:54, Eeli Kaikkonen <eeli.kaikkonen@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:eeli.kaikkonen@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> The feature seems to work well, clearances don't have effect on a
>> board or in the gerbers with paste or mask pads.
>>
>>
>> The dialog isn't very good as you told yourself. First, the text is
>> sentences, unlike titles, checkbox option, menu items etc. Therefore
>> they should all end with a period. (Now there are two sentences which
>> end with a period and three which don't.)
>>
>> Also, why not hide altogether the texts which aren't relevant for the
>> pad type? And actually hide or set to invisible, not just grey out?
>> The relevant instructions would be much easier to read and understand.
>>
>> Copper Non-copper Text
>> show hide "Set fields to 0..."
>> hide show "These parameters are used only... Pads only
>> on..."
>> show hide "Positive... Negative..."
>>
>> And that would be only one step from disabling the clearance fields
>> for non-copper pads.
>>
>> But I'm already happy with the changes in this patch or even the
>> previous patch, it was the idea of applying global clearances to
>> non-copper pads which bugged me and was tedious to work around. Thank
>> you very much.
>>
>> Eeli Kaikkonen
>>
>>
>> 2018-05-03 12:37 GMT+03:00 jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>
>> Attached a patch (against the current master version) with these
>> changes:
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>> Fixes in Pad settings dialog.
>> And mainly for pads not on copper layers, all margins/clearances
>> are ignored, even margins defined
>> in the Pad settings dialog (it was not the case in the previous
>> patch).
>>
>> This new behavior has my preference, because it is more intuitive.
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
>>
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Follow ups
References
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What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances? Why can't polygon pads not use negative mask clearance?
From: Rene Pöschl, 2018-04-27
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Re: What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances? Why can't polygon pads not use negative mask clearance?
From: Wayne Stambaugh, 2018-04-27
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Fwd: Re: What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances? Why can't polygon pads not use negative mask clearance?
From: Rene Pöschl, 2018-04-27
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Re: Fwd: Re: What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances? Why can't polygon pads not use negative mask clearance?
From: Eeli Kaikkonen, 2018-04-27
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Fwd: Re: What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances? Why can't polygon pads not use negative mask clearance?
From: jp charras, 2018-04-28
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Re: Fwd: Re: What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances? Why can't polygon pads not use negative mask clearance?
From: Rene Pöschl, 2018-04-28
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[RFC]: New non copper pad paste and mask clearances behavior (was: What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances)
From: jp charras, 2018-05-02
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Re: [RFC]: New non copper pad paste and mask clearances behavior (was: What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances)
From: Eeli Kaikkonen, 2018-05-02
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Re: [RFC]: New non copper pad paste and mask clearances behavior (was: What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances)
From: Jeff Young, 2018-05-02
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Re: [RFC]: New non copper pad paste and mask clearances behavior (was: What are the smallest values for pad paste and mask clearances)
From: Seth Hillbrand, 2018-05-02
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Re: [RFC]: New non copper pad paste and mask clearances behavior V2
From: jp charras, 2018-05-03
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Re: [RFC]: New non copper pad paste and mask clearances behavior V2
From: Eeli Kaikkonen, 2018-05-03
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Re: [RFC]: New non copper pad paste and mask clearances behavior V2
From: Jeff Young, 2018-05-03