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[Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré <winninglero@xxxxxxxxx>]

+1 alternate CD
It´s suppose that the minimal memory for use Lubuntu is 192MB, but with
256MB to install it, it´s impossible to use it with a very old computer.

My suggestion it´s to share a text install (alternate CD) by default. Anyway
now Lubuntu isn't for beginners Linux user, so with a text install no body
will be complicated. (My experience: the first Linux distro that i install
[Ubuntu 7.04], i installed with the alternate CD, with my 256MB of ram
memory [and Pentium 4 celeron] was impossible to install with GUI. Even if
was my first install i could do it without a problem. The installations it´s
intuitive.
Sorry for my English.

2011/3/30 PCMan <pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx>

> Text based installer + 1.
> The alternate CD with console-based UI is good enough IMO if it can
> have l10n user interface.
> Windows installer has long been text-based since windows 3.1 and it's
> still text-based in windows xp. Nobody complains of this so why should
> we insist that there should be a graphical one?
> Yes, if you boot from Windows xp installer cd on a machine without OS,
> you'll enter text-based installer. The GUI part is only available
> after the basic system is set up.
>
> Actually, we can do the same.
> The text-based installer (part I) only installs base system and core
> components and then reboot and automatically login X11 with a super
> user. After boot, a GUI-based installer (part II) is launched and
> continues the remaining parts. This can make things much easier.
>
> The only problem with this approach is, we cannot have a good
> GUI-based UI for partitioning. Windows XP handle this in text-mode,
> too. However, I see no real problem here. The rationale is quite
> simple.
>
> Users who doesn't know how to use text-based UI are also the ones that
> will almost always choose "automatic partitioning". Others who like to
> use "customized" and "manual partitioning" are definitely advanced
> power users who don't need a GUI installer.
> So don't put 80% of development resources to do what only 20% people need.
>
> Please, if someone know how to work with the text-based debian
> installer, consider this approach. Let's set up a base system with the
> text-based one, and continue the remainng parts in a GUI installer
> after rebooting into X11. This is also what Windows does.
>
> Comments?
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
> <jpxsat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to reduce the memory
> footprint
> >> >> of the installer for 11.04.
> >>
> >> The other question this poses is, is it really necessary to have a
> >> graphical installer as the default for Lubuntu?
> >
> > Some time ago, there was a question on the mailing list "What do you
> expect
> > from Lubuntu" and i think that a very important point is "it will go
> where
> > Ubuntu can't" or something like that.
> > A graphical installer is something that we do only one time (in theory)
> so
> > if it's a little "ugly" (text) IMHO i don't see the problem.
> > --
> > jpxsat
> >
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