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[Mikhail Maksimov <mcwillin@xxxxxxxxx>]

+1 for handling alternate CD as a "main" distribution, with an option to
switch to LiveCD+Ubiquity for those who install Lubuntu on more
resource-rich configurations.

Regards,
Mikhail

2011/3/31 Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré <winninglero@xxxxxxxxx>

> +1 alternate CD
> It´s suppose that the minimal memory for use Lubuntu is 192MB, but with
> 256MB to install it, it´s impossible to use it with a very old computer.
>
> My suggestion it´s to share a text install (alternate CD) by default.
> Anyway now Lubuntu isn't for beginners Linux user, so with a text install no
> body will be complicated. (My experience: the first Linux distro that i
> install [Ubuntu 7.04], i installed with the alternate CD, with my 256MB of
> ram memory [and Pentium 4 celeron] was impossible to install with GUI. Even
> if was my first install i could do it without a problem. The installations
> it´s intuitive.
> Sorry for my English.
>
> 2011/3/30 PCMan <pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Text based installer + 1.
>> The alternate CD with console-based UI is good enough IMO if it can
>> have l10n user interface.
>> Windows installer has long been text-based since windows 3.1 and it's
>> still text-based in windows xp. Nobody complains of this so why should
>> we insist that there should be a graphical one?
>> Yes, if you boot from Windows xp installer cd on a machine without OS,
>> you'll enter text-based installer. The GUI part is only available
>> after the basic system is set up.
>>
>> Actually, we can do the same.
>> The text-based installer (part I) only installs base system and core
>> components and then reboot and automatically login X11 with a super
>> user. After boot, a GUI-based installer (part II) is launched and
>> continues the remaining parts. This can make things much easier.
>>
>> The only problem with this approach is, we cannot have a good
>> GUI-based UI for partitioning. Windows XP handle this in text-mode,
>> too. However, I see no real problem here. The rationale is quite
>> simple.
>>
>> Users who doesn't know how to use text-based UI are also the ones that
>> will almost always choose "automatic partitioning". Others who like to
>> use "customized" and "manual partitioning" are definitely advanced
>> power users who don't need a GUI installer.
>> So don't put 80% of development resources to do what only 20% people need.
>>
>> Please, if someone know how to work with the text-based debian
>> installer, consider this approach. Let's set up a base system with the
>> text-based one, and continue the remainng parts in a GUI installer
>> after rebooting into X11. This is also what Windows does.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
>> <jpxsat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to reduce the memory
>> footprint
>> >> >> of the installer for 11.04.
>> >>
>> >> The other question this poses is, is it really necessary to have a
>> >> graphical installer as the default for Lubuntu?
>> >
>> > Some time ago, there was a question on the mailing list "What do you
>> expect
>> > from Lubuntu" and i think that a very important point is "it will go
>> where
>> > Ubuntu can't" or something like that.
>> > A graphical installer is something that we do only one time (in theory)
>> so
>> > if it's a little "ugly" (text) IMHO i don't see the problem.
>> > --
>> > jpxsat
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