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Re: Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

 

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 04:39:21 -0500
Steven <stenten@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> i think you forgot to 'reply-all' and missed lubuntu-desktop :)
> 
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Yorvyk <yorvik.ubunto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 04:17:29 -0500
> > Steven <stenten@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jared Norris <jrnorris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 6 January 2012 17:10, Steven <stenten@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Hi, I'm running Lubuntu on a non-PAE kernel too :)
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.4GHz Pentium M in a Dell Latitude D505 with 512MB RAM from 2004.
> > It's
> > > > my
> > > > > main production machine and runs Lubuntu like a charm.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been reading through the emails and irc logs, and it sounds
> > like the
> > > > > kernel team is maintaining the non-pae kernel in Precise (but not
> > > > beyond),
> > > > > but just not setting it as the default -- any chance someone can
> > convince
> > > > > them to make the non-pae kernel the default in just Lubuntu? Colin
> > Watson
> > > > > mentioned this as a possibility in the Technical Board meeting [1].
> > > > >
> > > > > -Steven
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]:
> > > >
> > http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yorvyk <
> > yorvik.ubunto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Steven,
> > > >
> > > > Running a PAE kernel and capable of running a PAE kernel are a couple
> > > > of different things. I'd honestly be surpised if that CPU wasn't
> > > > capable of running a PAE kernel. Are you able to run the command "grep
> > > > pae /proc/cpuinfo" to see if it is capable of running a PAE kernel? If
> > > > you get any output please paste it back if you're not sure what it
> > > > means.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That command doesn't give any output:
> > > $ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
> > > $
> > >
> > > It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the
> > > first time the other day and got this:
> > > "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
> > > pae
> > > Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
> > >
> > > -Steven
> > >
> > The Pentium M appears to be the most common CPU that can't run a PAE
> > kernel.
> > As Lubuntu is mainly aimed at low end machines I think we should go with
> > the non-PAE kernel as default, this will give us a 'market' not available
> > to the other 'ubuntus.
> > I seem to remember, at one point there were two kernels on a distro and
> > the appropriate one selected depending how much memory was detected.  Is
> > the feasible.
> > What would be really wonderful, would be if the non-PAE kernel was i586.
> >  This would increase, by a small percentage admittedly, the number of cpus
> > Lubuntu could support.
> >
> > --
> > Yorvyk
> >


-- 
Yorvyk


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