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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ho Wan Chan,

I'm happy to read that zRAM will stay :-)

zRAM makes it possible for me to install Lubuntu using the desktop
installer, on real hardware with only half the necessary RAM compared to
the previous levels:

>     works without disk swap: down to 384 MB RAM
>     works running disk swap: down to 256 MB RAM

which I think is a remarkable improvment :-)

Best regards
Nio

On 2013-06-18 11:03, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
> Hi Ali,
> 
> I checked the manifest of the Lubuntu builds found in
> cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu <http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu> and
> zram-config + Firefox is included. I do recommend you to try to zsync
> the current ISO in a new image (don't zsync the old one) and try again.
> Then we can determine if it is a website problem or a zsync problem (or
> maybe a seeds problem).
> 
> Regards,
> Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> (K)ubuntu member and Ubuntu QA Tester.
> 
> On 2013-6-18 下午4:56, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     If you are trying to tell me that:
> 
>     http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20130617/
> 
>     is NOT the same as:
> 
>     http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
> 
>     while BOTH ISO on BOTH links show:
> 
>     "saucy-desktop-i386.iso 17-Jun-2013 17:33 687M Desktop image for PC
>     (Intel x86) computers (standard download)"
>     " saucy-desktop-i386.iso 17-Jun-2013 17:33 687M Desktop image for PC
>     (Intel x86) computers (standard download)"
> 
>     Then, seriously, how would you guys except anyone can tell the
>     difference between them?
> 
>     Why there are two directories anyway? "current" and "20130617" ???
> 
>     Why not make life easier? why we make it harder?
> 
>     Okay, I will cool down and wait for some logical explanation. I will
>     not do anything until everyone is happy!
>     So, I will wait :D
> 
> 
>     On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
>     <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > I really don't like short answers without explanation :)
>     >
>     > I did NOT use a wrong ISO. If that so, blame the website, don't blame
>     > the tester. I know you are not blaming, I'm just saying what happened:
>     >
>     > I have done this:
>     >
>     > 1- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
>     > 2- downloaded:  saucy-desktop-i386.iso 17-Jun-2013 17:33 687M Desktop
>     > image for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download)
>     > 3- MD5SUM Checked: 61c94f7ff9905400c8bae5a3872fb2c3
>     *saucy-desktop-i386.iso
>     > 4- zsync the ISO after telling Phill about what is going on
>     >
>     > And, NO zRAM and NO Firefox!!
>     >
>     > How is that suddenly a previous ISO had both zRAM and Firefox and a
>     > latest one as per the website does not?
>     >
>     > I am NOT 100% sure but I guess the one I tested the other day was
>     > 13-June Image and if it is 13-June Image or not, I'm 100% sure it
>     > wasn't the latest and both zRAM and Firefox was there.
>     >
>     > There must be something wrong and obviously, it is not my mistake :D
>     >
>     > If you still thinking I'm dreaming, I'd appreciate some LOGICAL
>     > explanation before just closing my bugs without any good reason, IMHO
>     > :D
>     > I could be wrong though but all what I'm asking for is a simple
>     explanation :)
>     >
>     > I had 2 very long days with tons of testing, and at the end of the
>     > day, I wouldn't be happy at all when someone come and tell me that I
>     > have picked the wrong ISO while everything refer to it is the latest
>     > one.
>     >
>     > IF I picked the wrong one, how is that zsync did not update it?
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Phill Whiteside
>     <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     >> Nope,
>     >>
>     >> Ali mistakenlgly used an older ISO from before ZRam was added. It
>     has been
>     >> resolved.
>     >>
>     >> Regards,
>     >>
>     >> Phill.
>     >>
>     >> On 18 June 2013 03:48, Erick Brunzell <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>> On 06/17/2013 07:16 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>     >>> > zram:
>     >>> >
>     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1192005
>     >>> >
>     >>> > Browser:
>     >>> >
>     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1192010
>     >>> >
>     >>> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
>     >>> > <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     >>> >> O_o
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >> Firefox does not exist as well: http://i40.tinypic.com/9th4p4.jpg
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
>     >>> >> <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Yorvyk
>     <yorvik.ubunto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:yorvik.ubunto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     >>> >>> wrote:
>     >>> >>>> Don’t know why it#s missing, but it may be worth repeating
>     the tests
>     >>> >>>> you've
>     >>> >>>> done, if you have time, with today’s daily to see what
>     difference it
>     >>> >>>> makes.
>     >>> >>>>
>     >>> >>>> Steve
>     >>> >>> $ zsync
>     >>> >>>
>     http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20130617/saucy-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
>     >>> >>> #################### 100.0% 129.9 kBps DONE
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> reading seed file saucy-desktop-i386.iso:
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>>
>     ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************Read
>     >>> >>> saucy-desktop-i386.iso. Target 100.0% complete.
>     >>> >>> verifying download...checksum matches OK
>     >>> >>> used 720371712 local, fetched 0
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> And, it is NOT there.
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> top reports: ZERO KB SWAP.
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> and http://i41.tinypic.com/a0kwgx.jpg
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> It should be there by default on the LiveCD, otherwise, it
>     is totally
>     >>> >>> useless to have it AFTER installing the system.
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> If the above statement is wrong, the whole day yesterday
>     went for
>     >>> >>> vain. Why would we carry on with tests and it is not there
>     by default?
>     >>> >>> absolutely no point :D
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> The whole idea is to have it by default so the installation
>     process be
>     >>> >>> smoother and easier without crash, etc.
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> If we are adding it so it will be active/enabled AFTER
>     installing the
>     >>> >>> system, then, please, I would vote against that.
>     >>> >>> It should be there while we are on the LiveCD.
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> --
>     >>> >>> "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> Best Regards,
>     >>> >>> amjjawad
>     >>> >>> Start Ubuntu
>     >>> >>>
>     >>> >>> Test Machine: ASUS F3F Laptop - Intel Core Duo T2350 @
>     1.86GHz with
>     >>> >>> 489MB RAM
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >> --
>     >>> >> "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >> Best Regards,
>     >>> >> amjjawad
>     >>> >> Start Ubuntu
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >> Test Machine: ASUS F3F Laptop - Intel Core Duo T2350 @
>     1.86GHz with
>     >>> >> 489MB RAM
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>> I checked 20130617 <tel:20130617> i386 and it seems OK to me:
>     >>>
>     >>> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/142704171/firefox_zram.png
>     >>>
>     >>> I see from your bug filing that it states:
>     >>>
>     >>> "LiveMediaBuild: Lubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Alpha i386
>     (20130607 <tel:%2820130607>)"
>     >>>
>     >>> Are you perhaps booting the iso using grub2 and getting the
>     path_to_iso
>     >>> wrong?
>     >>>
>     >>> Lance
>     >>>
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>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>     >
>     > Best Regards,
>     > amjjawad
>     > Start Ubuntu
>     >
>     > Test Machine: ASUS F3F Laptop - Intel Core Duo T2350 @ 1.86GHz
>     with 489MB RAM
> 
> 
> 
>     --
>     "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> 
>     Best Regards,
>     amjjawad
>     Start Ubuntu
> 
>     Test Machine: ASUS F3F Laptop - Intel Core Duo T2350 @ 1.86GHz with
>     489MB RAM
> 
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