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Re: Proposal to improve communication and make more efficient the inclusion of new branches.

 

Hi Pedro,

As I know, everyone can download runbot and install it locally, on your own
server.

"The complete source code for this Runbot is available on Launchpad:
launchpad.net/openerp-tools (in the openerp-runbot sub-directory), where
you can also fill bug reports or propose your patches."

But we really don't like Launchpad. Instead of it we use GitHub, and we're
also interested in the same tool for GitHub.

Sorry Fabian, but I don't think that it is good idea to force people to use
the tools everyday that people don't like. Everyone want to use the tools
that he likes. Most of my familiar developers don't like Launchpad but they
like GitHub. And it makes sense.

>Everyone in the OpenERP
>community should follow the OpenERP guidelines which are: Launchpad,
>Runbot, Rosetta, YAML Tests.

As I know YAML tests are deprecated now by OpenERP and you recommend to
write unittests (that is great decision).

Peace to all :)


2013/10/25 Pedro Manuel Baeza Romero <pedro.baeza@xxxxxxxxx>

> Hi, Fabien,
>
> Indeed I also prefer to use homogeneus platforms for all the project, but
> there's one problem: runbot is not available openly for everyone, only for
> partners. This means an entry barrier for anyone who wants to use official
> platforms, so I don't blame anybody for searching for open alternatives.
>
> For example, very soon I'll be driving spanish localisation to the next
> step: automated tests for main localisation functionality, but if we depend
> on one of the members partnership to run these tests, I prefer to use
> Travis CI or something else to do it. Maybe a middle solution is that you
> enable a special access on runbot for these kind of projects (localisation,
> community branches and so on), but I think there's only one way to do it:
> create an standard procedure for everyone that wants to join, with the
> corresponding evaluation for your part, and being publicly informed, so
> that any newcomer localisation or project knows how to deal with the
> standard platform.
>
> Regards.
>
> P.S.: Please, don't take my direct style as agressive one.
>
>
>
>
> 2013/10/25 Fabien Pinckaers <fp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> > Of course Runbot can be used too. The main advantage of Travis is that
>> > it's zero hassle for anybody to set their own tracking branches with all
>> > the testing he wants without having to ask anybody's permission (Github
>> > really rocks at implementing decentralization of open source). It also
>> > costs zero to use and maintain. It's also forge agnostic and let you
>> > pull from Github as well as Launchpad or others.
>>
>> IMHO it's a bad idea to use different platforms. Everyone in the OpenERP
>> community should follow the OpenERP guidelines which are: Launchpad,
>> Runbot, Rosetta, YAML Tests.
>>
>> If one day people wants to switch to Github, this should be a global
>> decision and we should move all modules to github at once (and we think
>> it could be a good idea).
>>
>> But, for now on, if everyone uses different development platforms, or
>> different testing platform, it's very difficult to collaborate. So, I
>> think it's important to stick to the current OpenERP standard.
>>
>> If some wants to change these standard, we can organise a meeting/task
>> force for the next community meeting. But splitting efforts now is a bad
>> idea. (as a result of your approach, OCB branches are red and have not
>> been green for months).
>>
>>
>> Fabien
>>
>>
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Stefan Rijnhart <stefan@xxxxxxxx
>> > <mailto:stefan@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     On 10/24/2013 06:36 PM, Fabien Pinckaers wrote:
>> >
>> >         IMHO, the emergency for OCB branches is to fix bugs that have
>> been
>> >         introduced in these branches.
>> >
>> >         I am not sure if it's tracking the right branches, but it looks
>> >         like the
>> >         OCB branches are red on runbot:
>> >            http://runbot.openerp.com/ocb.__html
>> >         <http://runbot.openerp.com/ocb.html>
>> >
>> >
>> >     Thank you Fabien, for noticing this! And I hope the issue Ronald
>> >     signalled can be solved so that we can use the runbot for keeping
>> >     track of problems with the OCB branches.
>> >
>> >     Cheers,
>> >     Stefan.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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