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[Pedro Manuel Baeza Romero <pedro.baeza@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi, Денис (copy-pasted, sorry if it's not your name, but I don't know
cyrillic),

I know too about runbot availability to run locally downloading source
code, but the added value of runbot is to have it on-line, as Travis CI
does. Anyway, I also see more interesting Launchpad / GitHub debate.
@Fabien, have you talked about the switch internally?

Regards.


2013/10/25 Денис Каратаев <dskarataev@xxxxxxxxx>

> Hi Pedro,
>
> As I know, everyone can download runbot and install it locally, on your
> own server.
>
> "The complete source code for this Runbot is available on Launchpad:
> launchpad.net/openerp-tools (in the openerp-runbot sub-directory), where
> you can also fill bug reports or propose your patches."
>
> But we really don't like Launchpad. Instead of it we use GitHub, and we're
> also interested in the same tool for GitHub.
>
> Sorry Fabian, but I don't think that it is good idea to force people to
> use the tools everyday that people don't like. Everyone want to use the
> tools that he likes. Most of my familiar developers don't like Launchpad
> but they like GitHub. And it makes sense.
>
> >Everyone in the OpenERP
> >community should follow the OpenERP guidelines which are: Launchpad,
> >Runbot, Rosetta, YAML Tests.
>
> As I know YAML tests are deprecated now by OpenERP and you recommend to
> write unittests (that is great decision).
>
> Peace to all :)
>
>
> 2013/10/25 Pedro Manuel Baeza Romero <pedro.baeza@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Hi, Fabien,
>>
>> Indeed I also prefer to use homogeneus platforms for all the project, but
>> there's one problem: runbot is not available openly for everyone, only for
>> partners. This means an entry barrier for anyone who wants to use official
>> platforms, so I don't blame anybody for searching for open alternatives.
>>
>> For example, very soon I'll be driving spanish localisation to the next
>> step: automated tests for main localisation functionality, but if we depend
>> on one of the members partnership to run these tests, I prefer to use
>> Travis CI or something else to do it. Maybe a middle solution is that you
>> enable a special access on runbot for these kind of projects (localisation,
>> community branches and so on), but I think there's only one way to do it:
>> create an standard procedure for everyone that wants to join, with the
>> corresponding evaluation for your part, and being publicly informed, so
>> that any newcomer localisation or project knows how to deal with the
>> standard platform.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> P.S.: Please, don't take my direct style as agressive one.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/10/25 Fabien Pinckaers <fp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> > Of course Runbot can be used too. The main advantage of Travis is that
>>> > it's zero hassle for anybody to set their own tracking branches with
>>> all
>>> > the testing he wants without having to ask anybody's permission (Github
>>> > really rocks at implementing decentralization of open source). It also
>>> > costs zero to use and maintain. It's also forge agnostic and let you
>>> > pull from Github as well as Launchpad or others.
>>>
>>> IMHO it's a bad idea to use different platforms. Everyone in the OpenERP
>>> community should follow the OpenERP guidelines which are: Launchpad,
>>> Runbot, Rosetta, YAML Tests.
>>>
>>> If one day people wants to switch to Github, this should be a global
>>> decision and we should move all modules to github at once (and we think
>>> it could be a good idea).
>>>
>>> But, for now on, if everyone uses different development platforms, or
>>> different testing platform, it's very difficult to collaborate. So, I
>>> think it's important to stick to the current OpenERP standard.
>>>
>>> If some wants to change these standard, we can organise a meeting/task
>>> force for the next community meeting. But splitting efforts now is a bad
>>> idea. (as a result of your approach, OCB branches are red and have not
>>> been green for months).
>>>
>>>
>>> Fabien
>>>
>>>
>>> > Regards.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Stefan Rijnhart <stefan@xxxxxxxx
>>> > <mailto:stefan@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     On 10/24/2013 06:36 PM, Fabien Pinckaers wrote:
>>> >
>>> >         IMHO, the emergency for OCB branches is to fix bugs that have
>>> been
>>> >         introduced in these branches.
>>> >
>>> >         I am not sure if it's tracking the right branches, but it looks
>>> >         like the
>>> >         OCB branches are red on runbot:
>>> >            http://runbot.openerp.com/ocb.__html
>>> >         <http://runbot.openerp.com/ocb.html>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     Thank you Fabien, for noticing this! And I hope the issue Ronald
>>> >     signalled can be solved so that we can use the runbot for keeping
>>> >     track of problems with the OCB branches.
>>> >
>>> >     Cheers,
>>> >     Stefan.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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