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Von: Openerp-community [mailto:openerp-community-bounces+josef.kaser=inox-tech.de@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Orchid Infosys
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2014 10:29
An: 'Parthiv Patel'; 'Nhomar Hernández'
Cc: al@xxxxxxxx; 'OpenERP Community'
Betreff: Re: [Openerp-community] new api, v8 release

HI All

No body asking to release an unstable version.
But there is a plan and it should be clearly communicated with partners and community.
In open days its declared 7th of July will release, but while seeing the development we feel only 7th they have started real work for V8 and its uncertain.
Trusting odoo we have committed to our customers and prospect to provide V8.

Thanks & Regards

Fakrudeen Abbaz (ACMA)
Management & ERP Consultant

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From: Parthiv Patel [mailto:parthivgls@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:18 PM
To: Nhomar Hernández
Cc: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; al@xxxxxxxx<mailto:al@xxxxxxxx>; OpenERP Community
Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] new api, v8 release

I agree with the point of having "stable and tested" release but fact is that too much wait will kill the opportunities as well.

Apart from this, community and other integrators are also investing based on release, delay in release will also increase the investment as they'll be also not able to release their code and work based on new version.

Can't we have at least some official word from odoo about release plan and things that will be available, it's fine not to have all things in the release as things can be added with later release.

A better approach would be something like this ( Libreoffice office release plan) : https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
Again, My 2 cents for stability but 1 for releasing On time as well.


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Nhomar Hernández <nhomar@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nhomar@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Honestly.

For me it can be december the "official voice". It is not the real issue.

We have the master and rc code available since 1 year ago.

What we REALLY need is deeper testing with well documented bugs an github... guve as much feedback as you can... it will help more than complain about some date.

I dont like either the fact off offer dates you wilm not be able to comply with but shit happen.... lets code, lets test and lets hack....

The "unique" erp system in the world with this kind a R& d investment that put 100% of its R & D freely available allowing this kind of criticism is Odoo.... we should considere that in our evaluation.

Sorry for be too hard but even we have internally 20% of odoo team, 50% of them number of modules and 1% of databases numbers and we are not even sleeping well to have everithing on time thats a fact.....

I prefer "stable and tested" without fixed date than "unstable" for hurry the release.

This kind of complains will just push to remove more unfinished features because a "release" lets them work and please just test, hack and share code, thats the way to.work.

Take a problem for you solve it and make a pr thats not __only__ odoo sa responsability dudes.

Regards.

Written from my android
On Jul 24, 2014 3:25 AM, "Orchid Infosys" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Agree with Luis

Odoo officials will have to respond ASAP.
Delay in release of V8 have many negative impact in market.

Thanks & Regards

Fakrudeen Abbaz (ACMA)
Management & ERP Consultant

Mob. : 00971 55 66 77 001<tel:00971%2055%2066%2077%20001>
India  : 0091 9 44 777 0001<tel:0091%209%2044%20777%200001>
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From: Openerp-community [mailto:openerp-community-bounces+info<mailto:openerp-community-bounces%2Binfo>=orchidinfosys.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:orchidinfosys.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Luis Panozzo
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:44 AM
To: Mario Arias
Cc: al@xxxxxxxx<mailto:al@xxxxxxxx>; openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] new api, v8 release

I feel that Odoo is between a rock and and a hard place, now.
They have unstable code and a pressing need to release something they have already promised.
Yes, the defending side will argue -and rightly so- that stable software is a must.
But the "evil" forces of the market will be adamant: If you can not deliver, do not promise.
Odoo is a real force to contend with in the SMB market and the competition will use this as another proof of lack or reliability. Farfetched? Of course. But they still will.

In my opinion the worst is the current official silence which is the source of anxiety and rumours.
"August" is far too vague and comes from a functional consultant. Can we take this as the official Odoo voice?

There is a big community our there waiting for new version.
It probably should have never been announced or at least not with such an aggressive estimated date of delivery.
But it was.
And now, for the sake of damage control, I think that Odoo should inform the market and the community in a realistic way.
IMHO
Lp

PS: The Saas-x issue is just a numbering scheme gone awry. Let's not even waste energy in that. If anyone is running the beta version of V8, it says Version 9 alpha 01 in the "About Odoo" screen. Again, optimistic numbering?


Luis Panozzo (Lp)
Technology Manager
Elmatica AS
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On 23 July 2014 20:16, Mario Arias <the.clone.master@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:the.clone.master@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
We did, but just got the answer.  And it is not too comfortable...



De: jdu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jdu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:jdu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jdu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
Enviado el: miércoles, 23 de julio de 2014 02:14 a.m.
Para: Followers of RE-Odoo-Enterprise-Subscription
Asunto: Re: RE: Odoo Enterprise Subscription


Hello,

The next version will not be the SaaS 4 but the SaaS 5 and will be release in August but we haven't any precise date yet.

Best regards,

Jean-François Dufour


According to Antony, back in January he wrote:

sass-<n> are snapshots of trunk we deploy on the the saas, we are now at saas-3, the v8 release will based on a saas-n branch, prboably saas-4 or saas-5. The release process of v8 will simply be a bzr push of saas-n to 8.0. We will push a branch used in production on saas for at least one month. So it will really be stable from the first day of release (unlike previous releases which had a few month of stabilisation even after the release).


And the idea S.A. sold us was that when v8 was labeled, it would come from a tested saas-n branch, and clearly this is not the case...  SaaS customers are still on saas-3 !!

I know S.A. is busy with v8, but these issues are also important...


Regards,
-Mario




On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:39 AM, Stephen Mack <smack815@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:smack815@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Since you are officially a customer now, why not send in a support ticket.  I think the developers are a bit busy with v8 at the moment.

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Mario Arias <the.clone.master@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:the.clone.master@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Antony,

A friend asked me to create an instance in free odoo SaaS.
Everything installed fine, but at the end I noticed it was created using saas-3...

Aren't SaaS users supossedly on Saas-5 by now ?


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