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[David Rinnan <david@xxxxxxxxxx>]

If I paid for the system I would have a list of maybe 50 different things that must be changed to make the system good from a swedish perspective...
As it happens it is open source. 


So far, as far as I can tell, the responsibility to make the system conform to local standards and regulations has been that of the partners in a majority of the cases. = loooots of work. 


I am pretty sure that a french localization module could include a routine that removes the button or changes the functionality of the button. 
And if the button is bad from a wider than french perspective it should be even easier to find someone who can do it. 

I do not disagree with you entirely :)  Not at all. 

I just think a different approach could be good. 
If the french forum had discussed how to remove the button via code, rather than pointing fingers, I am guessing the problem had been solved since long. 


Regards
david 


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13 okt 2011 kl. 09.26 skrev Jean-Michel Pouré:

> Le mercredi 12 octobre 2011 à 23:58 +0200, David Rinnan a écrit :
>> As I understood it, the way it worked before, the Pay button on
>> invoices was a simple, quick and dirty, way to complete the full
>> payment process of an invoice. And as such not for use by other than
>> small companies. 
>> 
>> You have to remember that some companies use many features of Openerp
>> without actually using it for true accounting purposes. Marking
>> something as paid will close the invoice and make life simple for the
>> small company trying to keep an eye on who has paid and no 
> 
> Dear David and all,
> 
> "Click and dirty" way in accounting should not exist. The Macintosh is
> easy to use and not dirty. So should be OpenERP accounting process.
> 
> We are in the domain of legal regulations.
> 
> The problem with the "Pay" button is not that it closes the invoice. I
> would only like payment and invoice to be validated. Just like it is in
> the other payment feature, which is presented in lines.
> 
> Furthermore, if this feature is really "quick and dirty", it should only
> be available after some configuration and disabled by default.
> 
> Think about the hundreds of users who registered invoices and then
> clicked "Pay" thinking it would only create an entry in the bank
> journal. Users are trapped, as they cannot cancel payment. And then no
> bank reconciliation is possible, therefore their whole work in
> accounting is destroyed. Just clicking ONCE on pay in the invoice make
> bank reconciliation impossible.
> 
> If you follow discussions on the French forum, we are getting very upset
> with this "quick and dirty" feature. The Pay button should not close
> accounts.
> 
> OpenERP as legal tool cannot stay like that for the French market or
> would probably be banned. You cannot use an ERP with such feature
> available for everyone.
> 
> What would you propose? Telling us we should disable this button is not
> a solution. We are looking for solutions at OpenERP level, to make
> successful features available for everyone. If Windows explodes on
> startup, you cannot tell us to go to registry and fix an entry. We have
> to fix the product itsel. At least, for accounting, which a mandatory
> domain, it HAS to be FIXED.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> 
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