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[Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>]

I wonder if this problem is related to switching to GTK builder.  We are
loosing compatibility with older versions of Ubuntu.  I think we need GTK
2.16 for our GtkBuilder stuff to work.  Ubuntu 9.10 should have GTK 2.18, I
think.  I'll setup a VirtualBox of Ubuntu 9.10 and try it out.  If someone
figures it out before me, just drop me an email.

Thanks!
-Jonathan

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Okay i have this version Operationnelle on this system too. I should find
> why Bazaar Explorer don't work well.
> I have created a new project with some files of my Nexus and actually, the
> right clic on the main project tree nothing works.
> Another thing : is it something have being changed on the layout in the
> right clic of the clip. I have done a layout with 4 clips and i have now a
> black vertical bar in the middle (see screenshot join) (and not horisontal
> ?) that i wasn't having yet.
> And always a little problem with the clip created by Title Animated 3D (see
> at left). In fact, i have just give a simple name. I don't know why he  want
> to give a number (ie %d) ?
>
>
>
> 2010/9/18 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> I was believing than another revision was done since this  morning (that
>> could explain that) but no. I have no problem for launch it on Lucid.
>>
>> 2010/9/18 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Hi Andy,
>>>
>>> How are you ? Perhaps tonight ?
>>>
>>> I have always (not for a long time) my karmic in 32 bits for my HTPC. I
>>> have done a update on this system (1.2.0 beta1), i have a  conflict
>>> encountered - revision 332 after running openshot i have an Syntaxerror.
>>> Have the same ? I'm going to check on the other
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> 2010/9/18 Andy Finch <we.rocked.in79@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Has anyone else got a Karmic (9.10) install (maybe a virtualbox)? Just
>>>> wondered if anyone else can verify a problem with the right click menu on
>>>> the main project tree - it's not appearing & getting a python error.
>>>>
>>>> Andy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 September 2010 12:28, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jonathan, (and hello, at this moment you go to sleep very late or
>>>>> rather early !!!!!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Some anothers news effects very interesting here<http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video : all the effects presents work fine
>>>>>> Audio : a little doubt for the tremble but the others work fine too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For this week-end ? (i am nearly sure)[?][?]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My general impression is that she is more and more stable (under
>>>>>> blender/Python API)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A suggestion: for the next version between one week (for  sample) we
>>>>>> should launch a test campaign and same ask help on our forum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  | So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version
>>>>>>> of Sox.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is obligatory ? i have not yet installed MLT 0.5.10 on Lucid ? No
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>> Strange Burning tv was working great on Karmic.
>>>>>>> Deinterlace :is it necesseray to remove it if it is working fine with
>>>>>>> MLT 0.5.10 ? A advertisement could just do ? Marverick is not far a way and
>>>>>>> with the PPA ........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  | I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and
>>>>>>> different computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just
>>>>>>> fine on MLT 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>  Also, MLT 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10
>>>>>>> uses.  So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of
>>>>>>> Sox.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have re-tested and that works great now (a bad manipulation ?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  | I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect
>>>>>>> text video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires
>>>>>>> converting the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never
>>>>>>> could figure that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until
>>>>>>> another day. =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Domage. It is really awesone It strikes the minds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  |
>>>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay and i done some others tests for this effects at problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Olivier, thanks for the feedback.  Here are the resolutions for the
>>>>>>>> issues we have found so far:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>> REMOVED - deinterlace - seg faults on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6. Works fine
>>>>>>>> on MLT 0.5.10, but Ubuntu does not have that version yet.
>>>>>>>> REMOVED - frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>>> REMOVED - wave - seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6
>>>>>>>> REMOVED - BurningTV - only black screen, seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 &
>>>>>>>> 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Audio:
>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>> FIXED - bass - not changing the sound
>>>>>>>> FIXED - treble - not changing the sound
>>>>>>>> FIXED - echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ...
>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>> FIXED - phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>> REMOVED - pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]].  The pitch effect seemed completely broken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and different
>>>>>>>> computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just fine on MLT
>>>>>>>> 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.  Also, MLT
>>>>>>>> 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10 uses.  So, to
>>>>>>>> upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of Sox.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect text
>>>>>>>> video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires converting
>>>>>>>> the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never could figure
>>>>>>>> that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until another day. =)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice this puzzle transition.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have finished my test on a Ubuntu 10.04 in 64 bits with all
>>>>>>>>> standard And i note the following things :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>>>> ______
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> two type of error : a seg faults for :
>>>>>>>>> - freiOr.constrestor
>>>>>>>>> -deinterlace
>>>>>>>>> and a black window for :
>>>>>>>>> -burning tv
>>>>>>>>> -chroma key
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Audio:
>>>>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ... ]
>>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have nothing in console for the others but same if i am not a
>>>>>>>>> sound specialize, i have the impression that none ...........works.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  | Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the command
>>>>>>>>> line using "play"
>>>>>>>>> How do you test this sound effects in the command line "play" ? It
>>>>>>>>> can help me to know what i must ..................hear before to test. And
>>>>>>>>> if sox works (in command line) the problem not comes from him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I aml going to do some others tests with the last version of MLT
>>>>>>>>> (ie 5.10) for this effects and after with the last version of FreiOr-plugins
>>>>>>>>> always in a 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have found a little translation bug (or not ? ) When you add a
>>>>>>>>> effect in the Clip Propertie (tab effect), none effect is translate while it
>>>>>>>>> is the opposite in the tab effect in the main window. It is not the same
>>>>>>>>> list ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Beautiful this template for the Title animated 3D, i like this
>>>>>>>>> clapboard/clapperboards template.
>>>>>>>>> I hope that you could fix all the small bugs in the others files, i
>>>>>>>>> find the little train very funny but too much quick. And the famous effect
>>>>>>>>> particle (like the Youtube video that you have show us when you have speak
>>>>>>>>> the first time) Have you managed to create.
>>>>>>>>>  I don't remember if i have said about a bug when you create a name
>>>>>>>>> of the title (see the screenshot),
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>> I made a modification to the puzzle transition.  It didn't really
>>>>>>>>>> work the way that it was made.  The entire puzzle would just appear.  So, I
>>>>>>>>>> made some of the pieces different shades of grey, and then softened the
>>>>>>>>>> edges with a "blur" in gimp.  Check it out... it's kind of fun.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't worry, i will be more available tomorrow and normally when
>>>>>>>>>>> you wake up tomorrow............. it will done. [?]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember if i have told you about this new effect :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=553
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was trying to not update any more translations, but now that I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have lots of new blender animations to add in, I'll go ahead and re-generate
>>>>>>>>>>>> the POT later tonight.  I've gone ahead and added the "missing frame" error
>>>>>>>>>>>> message to the list of translations.  They will all be in LaunchPad by the
>>>>>>>>>>>> time you wake up tomorrow... hopefully. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is us (and not Blender) in the BlendorGenerator.py line
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 723/724.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Andy, a user inform us that it miss a string to translate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and after verification that's right. All was not genereted by the pot file !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the subject :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=552&p=2449#p2449
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes but do you think that can not be the 5.10 and the 1.2 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They can update their package like it is some great and important projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some others important projects (kdenlive, us) ? They have already done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that  Lucid (i.e.MLT).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the versions in Maverick, and it looks like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT is a bit newer, but frei0r is the same version as in Lucid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Lucid is 0.5.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Maverick is 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frei0r is 1.1.22 (both Lucid and Maverick)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes but a thought: i suppose that this version (i.e. mlt &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freiOr-plugins) will be certainly in Marverick. No ? It is too late for them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With my tests, I was using the versions in the repository
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of mlt, sox, and frei0r.  Since those packages are not in our PPA, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assuming most users will just stick with the version in their distro's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll check out the blender files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two things :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here  some news greats blend files :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476#p2446
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the test, the new version of the  freior-plugins is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. We can find it here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/ppa>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must do the tests with this version or with the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'official" ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And which one version of MLT ? The last version is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Update:*  I have tested on Ubuntu 10.10 beta, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same issues are reproducible.  I guess these issues also existed for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last release of OpenShot, because they don't seem related to our code, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather some bug between MLT, Sox, and Frei0r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Jonathan Thomas <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been testing OpenShot on Ubuntu 10.04, and here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are the issues I'm having so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Video:* - A few video effects have give me some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deinterlace - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wave - looks horrible, doesn't work correctly (at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no seg fault though)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water - worked fine for me, but I removed it from bzr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Audio:* - These sox effects don't do anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me... but throw lots of these errors in the terminal output
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [search-ms [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line using "play"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to continue to test on Ubuntu 10.04, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will test on Ubuntu 10.10 (to see if these issues still exist).  Also, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will try with the newest version of MLT and see what happens.  Please let me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if you can verify these errors on your own system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShot : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShot : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olivier
>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olivier
>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier
>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Olivier
> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>