ubuntu-gaming team mailing list archive

[Philip Wyett <philwyett@xxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 10:24 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:51:36 +0100 Philip Wyett <philwyett@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 22:28 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> >> Philip Wyett <philwyett@xxxxxxx> writes:
> >> 
> >> > It could. Maybe additions of:
> >> >
> >> >  - List of participants.
> >> 
> >> https://alioth.debian.org/project/memberlist.php?group_id=30862
> >> 
> >> >  - A collecting of the more useful links to get you started from the
> >> >    Debian wiki.
> >> >  - Reporting of bugs in Ubuntu and then recommended but voluntary how
> >> >    to check Debian bugs and go through that process.
> >> 
> >> Probably.
> >> 
> >> > Whilst musing... I know we have now the team to market and promote 
> which
> >> > is this one and we have a void of no devel team visible on the Ubuntu
> >> > side any longer. Would it be feasible to maybe setup a games swat team
> >> 
> >> What problem would creating a new team solve that couldn't be done
> >> within the Debian Games Team itself? Is using a mailing list ending in
> >> @alioth.debian.org instead of @ubuntu.com such an obstacle? why?
> >> 
> >
> >- It would solve having to go to pages hosted on servers with the self
> >  signed certificate problem. Launchpad does not have these issues.
> >- I have been subscribed since yesterday and these lists are spam
> >  heaven. Launchpad list control is better by my experience. I am very
> >  sure I have not won 2 million euro. ;-)
> >- Ubuntu users want to report and assign bugs to a Ubuntu team on 
> >  launchpad and not be sent all over the place. This is not about
> >  what we know, but what a user knows and expects, which could be
> >  very little about what Debian is to Ubuntu etc.
> >
> If users are assigning bugs to a team, in virtually all cases they are 
> wrong to do so.  Assignment indicates some expectation that work will be 
> done.  End users do not have the right to direct developers (whether paid 
> or volunteer).
> 
> We've already been through this once before and concluded that a joint team 
> with Debian is the best way to do this work.  Since Debian is our upstream, 
> it makes complete sense to focus the work there.
> 

I had left the subject of this team and was separately exploring the possible
need for a swat team also and assigning to a swat team creates no expectation of
something being fixed by developers paid or unpaid.

Regards

Phil

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