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[Wayne Ward <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

If this was added it would make life a lot easier - i currently add a
url with a user / password for cal / cardav and it works great if
people had the place in the gui to add the url and user and password
this would solve a lot of people asking how to add this 
and if the owncloudcmd was added to the system image this would save a
lot of questions and probably enable us to write a front end for it
easier than making RW or making a bin folder on home etc 
it cloud consists of three packages and a couple of dependencies which
would take a 2 or 3 meg up so wouldnt make much difference to the 2 gig
space we have for the sysytem image ....
and im quite sure it will stop a lot of questions and ebnable somebody
to create the sync app a lot of us need, i broke out of using google
when i switched to ubuntu phone i dont want them harvesting my data so
if i couldnt have ubuntu one which should have been in place i went
with the only system which would do everything and would connect with a
bit of fidling which is alright for me, but im getting people asking me
how i did it weekly and they follow my scripts and how to and thank me,
wouldnt it be nice if they could just stick a few settings in and get
on with enjoying there new ubuntu touch phone....
Wayne
On Tue, 2016-04-05 at 06:43 +1000, Mitchell Reese wrote:
> Caldav and carddav support seem two of the most requested sync
> options on this mailing list - I'm surprised nothing is in the works
> to support them yet. Yep, I get that Google is easy, but there are
> plenty of people that don't want to be tied to their services.
> 
> Both these sync protocols are very widely used, and should be
> integrated into the base image.
> 
> Mitchell
> 
> > On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 09:12 +0100, Alan Bell wrote:
> > >  
> > >  On 02/04/16 17:25, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >  Not everyone wants to maintain their own server.
> > >  but some people do! The phone project seems to be very very
> > > focussed
> > >  on 
> > >  not taking any advantage of the fact that users might run
> > > Ubuntu 
> > >  desktops and servers and maybe a bunch of phones.
> > But the phone image is still Ubuntu. There's nothing stopping
> > anyone
> > from contributing to make parts of this easier by default, or from
> > building their own custom images with their own sync software, if
> > needed.
> > 
> > Is anyone even doing the work necessary to get a solution for
> > ownCloud
> > enabled by
> > default on the image?
> > 
> > > >    The part of ownCloud
> > > >  which is problematic as a general solution is the "own" part.
> > > >  Google,
> > > >  Dropbox, iCloud, etc… do not provide compatibility with
> > > > owncloud,
> > > >  so
> > > >  while it theoretically allows some of us to have some level of
> > > >  sync, it
> > > >  doesn't solve all the problems, and doesn't enable things for
> > > > all.
> > >  but it does enable things for people who buy into the concept of
> > >  Free 
> > >  software and want their infrastructure to be Free software that
> > >  works 
> > >  together. This is a perfectly good target niche.
> > But it's still a niche, and not something that phone makers or
> > telcos
> > are asking for, AFAIK.
> > 
> > > >  
> > > >  Note of course, that Google contacts/calendar sync is already
> > > > on
> > > >  the
> > > >  phone, and has been for a very long time now, so if Google is
> > > > an
> > > >  acceptable place for storing those things, it can be used
> > > > (with
> > > >  some
> > > >  small caveats, as it seems only default contacts/calendar are
> > > >  synced,
> > > >  so alternate/subscribed calendars on Google don't get seem to
> > > > be
> > > >  exposed).
> > >  working on the assumption that people are using Google to run
> > > all
> > >  their 
> > >  stuff means that the phone is competing head to head with
> > > Android on 
> > >  Google's playing field. It isn't necessarily wrong to support
> > > those 
> > >  users, and yes, they might be a numerically large target,
> > > however
> > >  there 
> > >  is a wide open
> > > opportunity to change the rules of the game and go a 
> > >  different way.
> > It's not an assumption. Sure, there will be a few who have never
> > used
> > Android and don't use Google at all, who buy an Ubuntu phone. But
> > most
> > are migrating from Android. Google is also a complete service, for
> > which most all of the necessary code already existed, so it
> > required
> > very little design and engineering work, and was included from the
> > beginning.
> > 
> > An ownCloud solution requires significantly more design and
> > engineering
> > work, because the system is vastly more complicated. There are
> > plenty
> > of other solutions for various things, that I'm sure people would
> > like
> > to see implemented too. LDAP, Exchange, NIS, ActiveDirectory, or
> > others.
> > 
> > There's also plenty of additional concerns, because we are talking
> > about phones after all, and they don't have unlimited storage,
> > memory,
> > power, or network, readily available. How
> > much stuff do we install by
> > default? Features are great, but only so much stuff will fit in a
> > 2GB
> > partition.
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