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[Fabio Colella <fcole90@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,
you can find the requirements here:
https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/wiki/Distributions

Cheers,
Fabio

On 10 January 2017 at 05:14, Kirk Turner <gameldar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks for responding. My phone has only just arrived back in China so I
> still have a day or so before I find out what is happening!
>
> I was really enjoying my phone before it died. But if it isn't going to be
> compatible with snaps then I'm sorely tempted to find something that will
> be so I can tinker with UT in the future.
>
> I guess my question now is what is the base requirements that are needed
> for snaps? Searching through the snaps requirements I can't find this
> anywhere (and perhaps I need to ask on the snapcraft mailing list instead -
> although there was a question back in December basically asking that with
> no reply). However for example Docker lists it's minimum as kernel version
> as 3.10.
>
> The Meizu Pro 5 has a kernel version of 3.10. BQ Aquaris E5 is 3.4, while
> the M10 source is up to 3.18 (as is the LG V20 for example for a newly
> released phone). The interesting thing is something like the Moto G4 is
> rolling out Nougat - but it hasn't updated the kernel version (it is still
> on 3.10) - so that potentially answers my question about whether the
> FlymeOS update coming this year would result in the potential to support
> snaps.
>
> On 10 January 2017 at 01:48, Seth Ciango <seth.ciango@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> "Contributions aren't just limited to code. One of the things we've
>> always said from the beginning of Ubuntu is that all contributions are
>> valuable. It's not just the code contributions. The translations and
>> documentation and advocacy and events and asking and answering questions
>> are all valued just as much as code contributions." --Jane Silber
>>
>> Unfortunately for Kirk, getting a straight answer out of Canonical seems
>> impossible right now. I think he and many other people would be content
>> with an honest, "I don't know. We're not certain right now." I hope the
>> communication improves soon. I understand that some people may not be
>> allowed to answer certain questions at the moment.
>>
>> However, Kirk bought a $300+ phone and is wondering if he should keep it
>> or get a refund. So his inquiry is perhaps a little more time sensitive for
>> him, and I'm surprised that no one has responded.
>>
>> Well, Kirk, I have not seen anybody confirm that the Meizu Pro 5 will
>> receive any meaningful updates in the future. It is a beautiful phone, but
>> it may not be fully functional for you and may never become your daily
>> driver. The bluetooth headset functionality does not work. It is fine for
>> listening to music but not for taking calls. If you are ok with that and
>> just want to tinker, then you'll be fine. If you want the phone to replace
>> your current phone as your daily driver, you may want a refund.
>>
>> This bug report will give you more information on the headphone issue:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1590844
>>
>> As you can see, the bug and the contributors have been abandoned and
>> there is no indication that the bug will ever be resolved or even worked on.
>>
>> If the Meizu Pro 5 receives a snap-based distro upgrade, there is a good
>> chance that the bug and many other bugs will be resolved by the newer
>> kernel and newer software. As of right now, it looks like the programmers'
>> hands are tied, and they can not fix such a critical bug.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Kirk Turner <gameldar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm certainly interested to know what that state will be with the Meizu
>>> Pro 5... as I'm in the interesting position that I might get to choose in
>>> the next few days whether I get a replacement Pro 5 or a refund for mine
>>> which died a month after I bought it. I got a Flyme OS one and it was going
>>> to be my Christmas holiday project converting it to Ubuntu... but it died
>>> before I got the opportunity and so the Christmas project became tracking
>>> the postage back to China.
>>>
>>> I know there is talk about upgrading Flyme OS to be Nougat based this
>>> year - but would that necessarily see kernel upgrades (such that the phone
>>> will be able to run snaps)?
>>>
>>> I guess the related question is from others that have the Pro 5 if I was
>>> just very unlucky or others have had hardware issues? Everything I've read
>>> suggested they a solidly built phone.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kirk
>>>
>>> On 6 January 2017 at 01:26, Seth Ciango <seth.ciango@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pat,
>>>>
>>>> Could you clarify something that others keep bringing up. Are the
>>>> current BQ and Meizu devices going to be left to wither on the vine when a
>>>> Xenial image is released or will users be able to flash and wipe their
>>>> phones with a new Xenial image?
>>>>
>>>> Is there a current phone on the market that is the target for future
>>>> Xenial development?
>>>>
>>>> Is there a current phone on the market that runs a partially
>>>> functioning Xenial image?
>>>>
>>>> You've probably answered these questions already, but there still seems
>>>> to be some confusion since it sounds like you are saying that ALL current
>>>> Ubuntu phones are End-of-Life and that no new phones currently exist.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Seth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Pat McGowan <pat.mcgowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, <gareth.france@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use
>>>>>>> Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks all for your patience
>>>>>>> Pat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages we have had stating the
>>>>>> current logic and plans is all that was needed to keep everyone happy. If
>>>>>> we understand what is going on then nobody begins to worry about the
>>>>>> silence. Looking forward to every bit of it except having to find the money
>>>>>> to replace my phone!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just one thing, several people have said the current phones won't
>>>>>> support the snaps but what about the M10 tablet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We are working on a reference image for the M10 for development and
>>>>> testing work but this is not intended for "production" use at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>
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