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[Alfredo Hernández <aldomann.designs@xxxxxxxxx>]

That's also a good point, Tim. We'll discuss it further with the team and
let you know.

Cheers,
Alfredo
On 2 Aug 2015 11:39 pm, "Tim" <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> On 03/08/15 11:40, Alfredo Hernández wrote:
> >
> > That's a great idea, Ali. 15.10 would be a perfect place to let everyone
> know we've changed our branding; it might seem like forcing the new
> > logo in everyone's throats, but at the end it will do more benefit than
> harm.
> >
> Alfredo, I'm curious as to what benefit you think it will achieve? Its not
> like people won't be exposed to the new logo anyway via boot screen,
> login screen, ubiquity slideshow, social media, website, release notes and
> most likely random news sites etc. I can't possibly imagine, that any
> user could completely miss the fact that the logo has changed, regardless
> of if its on the wallpaper or not?
> >
> > PS. We have super exciting ideas for 16.04 that will be developed
> further when time comes.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Alfredo
> >
> > On 2 Aug 2015 10:21 pm, "Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
> amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi all,
> >
> >     On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:
> darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >         On 02/08/15 19:23, Patrik Bubák wrote:
> >         > Hey Tim,
> >         >
> >         > the reason behind this wallpaper being branded is part of
> introducing one of the major changes to the distribution - the change of
> >         the logo.
> >         > We always can, however, include it without it being the
> default and people can opt to use it from the backgrounds menu.
> >         I'm not convinced that plastering the new logo across everyones
> desktops will help this much, people will make the association pretty
> >         quickly
> >         once they see the plymouth screen, and then presumably a logo on
> the login screen.
> >
> >
> >     Just to let you all know, I do see the point of both Tim and Patrik
> here and I do agree with both at the same time. However, I attend to
> >     agree with Tim's point more. For me, I do hate (to be super honest)
> to see a logo on the default wallpaper BUT it won't kill us nor anyone
> >     if we shall do it for once, only. That means, for 15.10 only :)
> >
> >     With 16.04, the default wallpaper should have no logo nor Ubuntu
> GNOME in there, IMHO.
> >
> >
> >
> >         But really that is just my opinion and its up to you guys to
> >         make the actual decisions on this.
> >
> >
> >     Yes.
> >     The reason why there is an Artwork Sub-Team is to do each and
> everything related to Ubuntu GNOME Artwork. Myself and Tim can only share
> >     our opinion ;)
> >     We do trust you guys so please, dazzle us!
> >
> >     Even for planning, I don't really have to do your homework :P
> >
> >
> >         >
> >         > On the other hand it's nothing uncommon - Xubuntu does the
> same. Many of their blueish wallpapers have been featuring the logo in
> >         the past and
> >         > continue to do so today.
> >         And many distros have moved away from doing this, in fact ubuntu
> itself was probably one of the first to go with a recurring theme,
> >         but not
> >         plastered with branding.
> >
> >
> >     @Artwork Team.
> >     I strongly agree with Tim here. I do hate to copy others. I was born
> original, I won't die as a copy.
> >     It is okay to learn from others and get inspired but doing the same
> as they do? that is now how/where I want to see Ubuntu GNOME is heading :)
> >
> >
> >
> >         >
> >         > For Plymouth we have something more subtle to smoothen the
> transition. I think when I say this I speak for everyone, that we don't
> >         want to
> >         > disrupt the current paradigm too much, but slight cosmetic
> upgrades here and there won't hurt anyone, conversely, we believe users
> would
> >         > welcome them, since the default Gnome setup seems quite dated
> and most users change most stuff after install (wallpapers, icons,
> >         themes...).
> >         the GNOME wallpapers have evolved significantly over the last
> couple of years, if they were still using the blue blinds of the 3.8
> >         era, then I
> >         would call them dated.  But that is pretty irrelevant to this
> discussion, I have no issue with us using a different wallpaper(s).
> >
> >
> >     I agree with Tim, yet again.
> >
> >
> >
> >         >
> >         > To give you a better idea of what we were thinking about I'm
> attaching a screenshot. It has not yet been decided, but we're talking
> >         about it.
> >         Now that we have systemd init, it might be possible to use a
> proper progress indicator (i,e 0 - 100%), rather than the
> >         recurring/cycling dots. I
> >         know fedora do this. The problem before with upstart was that we
> never accurately knew how far through the boot we were.
> >
> >
> >     Great idea and yet again, you're scaring me Tim :P stay away from by
> brain, dammit hehe :P
> >
> >     In short, I am sick and tired of the dots :P
> >
> >
> >         >
> >         > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 19:12 +1000, Tim wrote:
> >         >> Hi Patrik,
> >         >>   That looks awesome, however I am not really a fan of having
> branded wallpapers, but really its the artwork's team call on whether
> >         to use it.
> >         >> Perhaps you could use some variant of it for the plymouth
> (boot) screen?
> >         >>
> >         >> Tim
> >         >>
> >         >> On 02/08/15 08:07, Patrik Bubák wrote:
> >         >> > Gents,
> >         >> >
> >         >> > I would be thrilled if this <
> https://www.behance.net/gallery/28367327/Icy-Abstract> would be our
> official welcome screen
> >         (default) wallpaper
> >         >> > in the upcoming release. It's a modified version of the
> previous one I sent you, a lot cooler, a lot more powerful.
> >         >> >
> >         >> > Enjoy...
> >         >> > --
> >         >> > Sent using Evolution <
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from Ubuntu <
> http://ubuntu.com/desktop>
> >         >> >
> >         >> > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in.
> We call it the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice
> >         cream with one
> >         >> > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That
> flavour is going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people
> >         don't agree on
> >         >> > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to
> agree on.
> >         >> >
> >         >>
> >         >
> >         > --
> >         > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/>
> from Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop>
> >         >
> >         > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We
> call it the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream
> >         with one
> >         > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour
> is going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people
> >         don't agree on
> >         > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree
> on.
> >         >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     --
> >     Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >
> >     Best Regards,
> >     Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
> >
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