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["Paulo J. S. Silva" <pjssilva@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Ops... I sent the message below to David only.


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From: Paulo J. S. Silva <pjssilva@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2009/6/17
Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login
To: David Siegel <david.siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>


Sorry David,

I think I misread your suggestion. I  thought you were suggesting to
force the user to upgrade at login and now reading your message again,
and your reply, I see that you were just saying that if the user
decided to upgrade at login, than instead of trying to upgrade and
logging in in parallel the computer should then first update and
followed by a login. I OK with this idea.

However I do think that updates at login time are weird. As I said,
even though I am a computer scientist my computer is a tool. When I
login I want to work or use it to communicate or surf the net Not
usually a good moment to update. As I said, when I log out usually I
don't mind to leave it updating it self before shutting down, as it
turns off after that.

Of course if the computer is a laptop, you may want to shutdown *now*
(to take it away with you, for example). But I am assuming that the
upgrade would be optional. Like an extra button in the shutdown/logout
dialog saying that you have upgrades (maybe with a nice "present" icon
as some suggested). Maybe this button should be the default action
button. I am not sure about this last point.

Paulo


2009/6/17 David Siegel <david.siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Paulo J. S. Silva wrote:
>>
>> 2009/6/17 David Siegel <david.siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:david.siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>
>>    I think it would be interesting if the user must wait at GDM for
>>    updates to finish (assuming they were downloaded previously), and
>>    is only allowed to log in when updates have finished. This process
>>    only takes a minute or two, and the user can choose to not
>>    initiate the updates or cancel them and log in at any point.
>>
>>    David
>>
>>
>> Are you kidding?
>>
>> Wouldn't it be much more reasonable to do this at shutdown (or logout for users that don't shutdown). When I login, I want to my stuff. When I logout I am saying: "I'm done for know". Imagine that you are leaving home, a little late, and decide to look for a map in google maps. Wife and kids are already in the car. The you scream from the office "Dear, will have to wait for five minutes more because Ubuntu is forcing me to update now!"
>
> The updates are complete opt-in. You just don't click to begin them if you don't have time for them. They don't begin automatically, they don't even ask you to initiate them. They just sit in the corner, and you click on them, or you don't. If the wife and kids are waiting, don't click on them.
>
>>
>> Actually the whole concept of updates at login sounds very weird to me, for exact the same reason I described above. I can leave home while the computer is udpating itself (and shutting down)...
>>
>> Paulo
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