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[Alejandro Méndez A. <twistx77@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I will wait to Nicks suggestions and once they are implemented I will send
it to the mailing list.


2014-04-08 16:28 GMT+02:00 Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Thanks Alejandro.
>
> Nothing speaks louder than success.  If you have this configuration
> working on both OSes,
> then it is likely that others will benefit from your findings and sharing
> of knowledge.
>
>
> Dick
>
>
>
> On 04/08/2014 02:52 AM, Alejandro Méndez A. wrote:
> > Hi Dick,
> >
> > I made a simple manual but I forgot to send it. You can check it before
> I send it to the
> > mailing list since you might find something else to add or to change:
> >
> >
> > *Using KiCad in Windows and Linux using the same Globa Libraries for
> modules*
> >
> > *
> > *
> >
> > To be able to use the same Global Libraries for modules we will need
> three to do three
> > things:
> >
> > 1) Have a path that can be accesed by both Windows and Linux ( A NTFS or
> Fat32 Partition
> > will do) to store the libraries.
> >
> > 2) Add the Environment Variable with the path where the libraries are in
> each OS. (This
> > step is not necesary but can be useful for people working with Linux and
> OSX)
> >
> > 3) Create a lib-table with the path of each library using the
> Environmental Variable and
> > substitute the KiCad lib-table of each OS.
> >
> >
> > 1) For the first step we will have to move all our libraries to a folder
> inside of a
> > drive that can be accessed by both systems, usually this is done with a
> partition
> > formatted in NTFS or Fat32 since Windows can't access many of the files
> systems used in
> > Linux. This can also be done with a USB drive.
> >
> > For my example, I will be using a partition formatted in NTFS. The path
> to the folder
> > with the libraries in each OS are the following :
> >
> >
> > Linux (The drive in my case is named : 6EF4F576F4F540BF ):
> >  /media/twistx77/6EF4F576F4F540BF/mylibs/
> >
> > Windows: D:\mylibs\
> >
> >
> > 2) Now that we have access to the libraries from both OS, we have to add
> the necessary
> > Environment Variables in each OS. The Environment Variable will be used
> in this case to
> > substitute a path that for a name, so if we have different paths in each
> operative
> > system, we can setup an evironment variable that can have the same name
> in both OS but
> > they point to the same folder with the different path this folder can
> have en each OS.
> >
> > We can use the Environment Variable determined by KiCad (KISYSMOD) or we
> can just create
> > our own. In this case, I will create a new variable called KIMYLIBS to
> assign the paths
> > of our libraries in each OS. In Linux there are several ways to declare
> a Enviroment
> > Variable which will depend on the distribution, persistence of the
> variable and reach
> > (user vs system). I will be creating a session-wide environment in a
> Ubuntu based system.
> >
> >
> > To create the Environment Variable in Linux :
> >
> > s*udo *gedit *~/.profile*
> >
> > *In the files that have openned we have to add the following in the last
> line:*
> >
> > *export KIMYLIBS="/media/twistx77/6EF4F576F4F540BF/mylibs"*
> >
> > *Then save **and close the file.*
> >
> > *Now we reload the profile*
> >
> > *source **~/.profile*
> >
> > *Now, lets check if the variable is already set by using the command:*
> >
> > *printenv **KIMYLIBS*
> >
> > *We should see **/media/twistx77/6EF4F576F4F540BF/mylibs*
> >
> > *
> > *
> >
> > To create the Environment Variable in Windows 7:
> >
> > 1) Right click on the Computer icon on your Desktop or Start Menu and
> choose Properties
> > option.
> >
> > 2) In the System window click on Advanced system settings in the left
> pane.
> >
> > 3) In the System Properties window select Advanced tab and click on
> Environment
> > Variables… button given at the bottom of the window.
> >
> > 4) In the Environment Variables window you will notice two columns User
> variables for a
> > username and System variables.
> >
> > 5) Now to add a new User variable click on New… button. In the New User
> Variable dialog
> > box type the KIMYLIB name and in Variable value add D:\mylibsand click
> OK button
> >
> > 6) Click OK button in the Environment Variables dialog window.
> >
> > 7) Click OK on System Properties window.
> >
> > You might need to restart.
> >
> >
> > For more information in how to setup Environment Variables check these
> links:
> >
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables (Ubuntu)
> >
> >
> http://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-addedit-environment-variables-in-windows-7/
> >
> >
> > 3) There are two ways of creating the lib-table. The first would be to
> open PCBNew, go
> > to Preferences>Library Tables and then add there the path
> ($KIMYLIB/resistors.pretty in
> > Windows $KIMYLIB\resistors.pretty in Linux) of each library with its
> name and plugin
> > type Kicad.
> >
> > Another way to do this is modify the lib-table file which can be located
> in the home
> > folder in Linux and at “C:\Users\<User Name>\AppData\Roaming\kicad\” in
> Windows.
> >
> > The file should contain something like this:
> >
> >
> > (fp_lib_table
> >
> > (lib (name resistors)(type KiCad)(uri $KIMYLIB/resistors.pretty)(options
> "")(descr
> > "Resistors"))
> >
> > (lib (name capas)(type KiCad)(uri $KIMYLIB/caps.pretty)(options
> "")(descr "Capacitors"))
> >
> > )
> >
> > where each line should have name of the library, type of library, path,
> options, and
> > description as in the Library Tables manager of PCBNew.
> >
> > We have to pay atention in the path since in Linux we should have
> something like this:
> > $KIMYLIB/library.pretty while in Windows we should be using “\” instead
> of “/” so it
> > would be like this: $KIMYLIB\library.pretty
> >
> >
> > That's it.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2014-04-08 4:44 GMT+02:00 Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:
> dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>>:
> >
> >     On 03/17/2014 01:35 PM, Alejandro Méndez A. wrote:
> >     > Ok,
> >     >
> >     > I will do that in a new post with another title so it is easy to
> find.
> >
> >     Alejandro
> >
> >     Can you tell me if and where this has been done please?
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >
> >     Dick
> >
> >
> >
> >     >
> >     > I could make a video since I already have a youtube channel with
> plenty of visits
> >     but I'm
> >     > not a native English speaker so I think it might be better just to
> keep the
> >     written version :)
> >     >
> >     > In fact I've been doing a tutorial for Kicad in Spanish but I
> haven't finished
> >     since the
> >     > last changes for KiCad have changed a lot in PCBNew and Library
> and I'm thinking of
> >     > redoing the first ones with a newer version of KiCad including the
> new features of
> >     PCBNew.
> >     > Should I keep waiting a little longer for more big changes?
> >     >
> >     > I'll try to make a useful post for the environment variables and
> how to use them to be
> >     > able to work with Kicad seamlessly in different platforms.
> >     >
> >     > Last but not least. I think there is already work being done with
> the libraries but I
> >     > think that it would be really good for KiCad to have a very large
> contributive
> >     components
> >     > library since most "hobbiest" users don't wan't to make their own
> parts and people
> >     like me
> >     > that are freelance or work for small companies will use already
> created components
> >     when
> >     > they come from a "respectable" source. I spend a lot of time
> creating my own
> >     footprints
> >     > and I've found that the best library out there in my opinion is
> this one:
> >     > http://smisioto.no-ip.org/elettronica/kicad/kicad-en.htm . Is
> anyone working on
> >     doing some
> >     > sort of collaborative library where people could create components
> and by users
> >     votes have
> >     > the components validate them-selves?
> >     > I know a little about the github "official" library for KiCad and
> also I know of a web
> >     > that is doing that for three differents packages (KiCad included),
> it is called
> >     > CircuitHub. It is a great idea but they try to cover too much, at
> least for now, in my
> >     > opinion. You can create the components in their web, et cetera.
> I've tried it and I've
> >     > even talked to one of the founders for support, since there are
> many things that don't
> >     > work right yet and they make it basically unusable at the end.
> They've told me
> >     they are
> >     > working on it, but it have passed at least 6 months and they have
> added other
> >     things but
> >     > the component creation part is still not working right. To the
> point of not even
> >     been able
> >     > to create new schematic symbols.
> >     >
> >     > Anyway, I just want to know if there is somebody working in an
> idea like that but
> >     just to
> >     > keep the components, not creating them in the web since I could
> help creating
> >     components
> >     > and a system to let people create components to share, following a
> common criteria
> >     which
> >     > could give some security to the people wanting to use them.
> >     >
> >     > BTW, sorry for the long boring reply.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > 2014-03-17 18:57 GMT+01:00 Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:
> dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>:
> >     >
> >     >     On 03/17/2014 12:27 PM, Alejandro Méndez A. wrote:
> >     >     > Hi Dick,
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I already fixed it, I had a problem with the environment
> variable which in
> >     Linux you can
> >     >     > set it just for one user and I'm new to Linux.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Now, if you can tell me where to write a little guide on how
> to do it, I
> >     will gladly do
> >     >     > it. If there is no such a place, I would just send it to the
> mailing list
> >     where someone
> >     >     > might find it.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     User's (yahoo) Mailing list is helpful!  TIA for that.
> >     >
> >     >     It would be good if you actually re-enforce the *concept* of
> what you are
> >     trying to do,
> >     >     not simply state how to set the environment variable.  The
> fact that it
> >     allowed you to
> >     >     achieve a single data file which is applicable across
> platforms, that is the
> >     concept.
> >     >
> >     >     It was in your original posting, but I would bring it into
> your summary posting.
> >     >
> >     >     Eventually, if somebody can make videos that help users, that
> will help users.
> >      I suppose
> >     >     we can link to good videos from the website.
> >     >
> >     >     I think people struggle more with the concept of what the
> environment variable
> >     is doing,
> >     >     than they struggle with how to set it.  You at least saw this
> concept, and it
> >     puts you at
> >     >     the head of the class.
> >     >
> >     >     If you tell them only how to set it, next thing they'll ask is
> what variable
> >     do I set?
> >     >
> >     >     It would be best if you *invent* your own environment
> variable, and use that
> >     in your write
> >     >     up.  Like FPBASEDIR or something like that, anything
> meaningful.  And more
> >     than one is OK.
> >     >
> >     >     We actually use ${MY_LIBS} for our personal libraries, and put
> them on a
> >     network drive in
> >     >     pretty format, so that's where MY_LIBS points.
> >     >
> >     >     You can do the same with environment variables for the paths
> to the 3D models.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     I will not be visiting the user's mailing list anymore, so
> your help is
> >     appreciated.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
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