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[Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>]

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ons. 23. okt. 2019 15.28 skrev Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>:

> One thing we don't specify on the system requirements page on the KiCad
> website is whether or not this applies to the current stable release or
> the nightly builds.  Since we don't specify this, I can see how users
> would assume that it's all versions of KiCad.  Perhaps we should note
> that this is only applicable to the current stable version and that
> nightly builds may not support older Linux distributions due to the
> availability of dependency library versions.  I don't think it's
> reasonable to expect the latest development version of KiCad to continue
> to support legacy Linux distros.  The current LTS release of Ubuntu is
> 18.04 which supports boost version 1.65.  I think attempting to support
> nightly builds on Ubuntu 16.04 is going to continue cause headaches as
> time goes on.  If no one objects, I will update the system requirements
> page accordingly.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> On 10/23/2019 1:39 AM, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
> > It should also be noted that 20.04 will be the next LTS release of
> > Ubuntu. This means that there will be two post-16.04 LTS releases out
> > there before KiCad 6 will be released (I'm not *that* optimistic :) ).
> > Is it really worth it to actively support 3 different LTS releases? It
> > doesn't sound very realistic. How many users would actually be affected
> > if KiCad 6 wouldn't be available for 16.04? 1000s? 100s? 10? And if they
> > continue with 16.04 until 2021, why would they need to switch to KiCad 6
> > before that?
> >
> > Eeli Kaikkonen
> >
> > ke 23. lokak. 2019 klo 3.05 Seth Hillbrand (seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>) kirjoitti:
> >
> >     On 2019-10-22 16:06, Ian McInerney wrote:
> >
> >>     I dug into the website history and apparently the original intent
> >>     should have been to support 16.04 LTS until its standard support
> >>     ends in 2021
> >>     (
> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-website/commit/007fb582a316fa513778a393e2696d17c0031cea#r33487782
> ).
> >>     Since we haven't actually used any code from the newer Boost
> >>     version (that we weren't already using), we should probably back
> >>     out the change and also update the website with the correct Ubuntu
> >>     LTS support date. It looks like that will make it so we can't
> >>     update to 1.59 until 2021 then.
> >>
> >
> >     Hi Ian-
> >
> >     I did write that.  In retrospect, I'm not sure that the sentiment is
> >     correct.  One of the things we are attempting to do is focus our
> >     primary efforts where they will have the largest impact for our
> >     users.  Toward that end, we were attempting (in the post KiCon
> >     meeting) to define where that cut off should be.  We kind of
> >     arbitrary picked "vendor supported" as it seemed reasonable.
> >
> >     I now think we should tighten that a bit more for the Linux
> >     distributions.  Under MSW/Mac, we compile or have rolling updates
> >     for most of our own dependencies.  This allows us to ensure system
> >     compatibility but not worry about library compatibility.  The Linux
> >     library system is different and holds back updates.
> >
> >     So, why would we want to update the boost libraries and what does it
> >     gain us?  The original bump was to allow unit tests.  During v6, I
> >     would also like to utilize the UUID library from 1.60 as many of the
> >     feature we plan will require GUID at least.
> >
> >     This doesn't preclude using KiCad on 16.04.  It just requires
> >     someone to package a boost ppa.  There are a few out there that
> >     could be used as baselines for this.
> >
> >     -Seth
> >
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