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["Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Mélodie,

unfortunately asking lubuntu to remove python-xdg also will remove
lubuntu-software-center and zeitgeist (I'm not sure of zrigeist, but LSC is
needed !).

phillw@piglet:~$ sudo apt-get remove python-xdg
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED
  lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-software-center python-xdg python-zeitgeist
  zeitgeist

Regards,

Phill.

On 26 August 2015 at 11:30, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> A bug has been raised, mainly just so it has a bug [1]. After a brief
> description it points to this mail conversation for further information.
>
> As some comments have not been cc'd to the mailing list and thus not
> viewable, I've copied them below. Please use the 'Reply to All' function if
> adding information to this mail, or use the bug!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
> 1. https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488660
>
> Oh ok I see.
>
> The answer is this is most probably the Lubuntu setup which triggers this.
>
> You have the 3.5.* version of Openbox. (Not the patched 3.6.* git for
> Mati75 at Lubuntu
> testing).
>
> There is a special "Lubuntu" setup which has these two apps started with
> the user
> session (whatever â-applet is).
>
> So, there is a solution to solve it definitely, but I'm still working on
> it with 2/3
> other people. Then I'll get back to the Lubuntu team leader Julien about
> it. It should
> fix the issue.
>
> For now, if you remove either python-xdg from the install, or deactivate
> the Lubuntu kick
> in with session for these two programs you will solve it.
>
> (python-xdg has never been a must have with the openbox package, it's
> optional, so if you
> have it, programs whose desktop files are in /etc/xdg/autostart and or in
> the user's
> ~/.config/autostart will be started, because this is inside one of the
> openbox files, if
> you don't know python-xdg and no other process launches them, you don't
> have them
> started at all in the session, which is a problem too). As I tell you, I
> expect to get it
> solved by the end of the year and to be able to bring a simple and elegant
> lasting solution.
>
> Best regards,
> Mélodie
>
> Hi Phill,
>
> I could not figure out which package is the culprit, so I could not file a
> bug. I hope Mélodie will tell us. If she wants to file the bug, fine!
> Otherwise I can do it.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> On 25 August 2015 at 19:50, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> melodie,
>>
>> the screen shots contain all three answers?...
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>> On 25 August 2015 at 19:34, <meets@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I need all three answers to be able to tell you what the issue comes
>>> from, or at least
>>> have a fair idea about it. And I don't know which program the â-applet
>>> relates to anyway.
>>>
>>> Else, have you tried to deactive their launch from within the Lubuntu
>>> "all in one tool"
>>> which has/used to have a "start apps with session" section?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Mélodie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:04:10 +0100
>>> "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Mélodie,
>>> >
>>> > this is the SAME Iso installed on the SAME VM twice..... This is one
>>> messy
>>> > bug!
>>> >
>>> > Install that has one network applet and no â-applet
>>> > http://phillw.net/orig.png
>>> >
>>> > Install that has one network applet and two â-applets
>>> > http://phillw.net/side.png
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Phill.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 25 August 2015 at 18:08, <meets@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > > Check the followings:
>>> > >
>>> > > * which Openbox version does it run? (apt-cache policy openbox)
>>> > > * is python-xdg installed?
>>> > > * in /etc/xdg/autostart do you see the desktop files related to the
>>> > > programs which show a
>>> > > double icon?
>>> > >
>>> > > Please send the answers on the same thread. (for all and any edition
>>> in
>>> > > which you meet
>>> > > with the double icons issues).
>>> > >
>>> > > Best regards,
>>> > > Mélodie
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:54:21 +0100
>>> > > "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > hmm..
>>> > > >
>>> > > > confused @ phillw. Alternate 64 bit first test (entire disk) gives
>>> one
>>> > > > network applet and no â-applet. Then I did the next test, which is
>>> the
>>> > > > guided (side by side) install. I now have 1 network applet and 2
>>> > > â-applets
>>> > > > on that  installation. Both these situations persist as I boot
>>> between
>>> > > > them!!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Regards,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Phill.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On 25 August 2015 at 15:11, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Is there a bug number yet for this?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Regards,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Phill.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On 25 August 2015 at 14:39, Henk Terhell <hterhell@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >> On 2015-08-25 ISO i386 desktop manual installation I saw the
>>> nm-applet
>>> > > > >> icon as well as the virtual keyboard icon (â)  shown twice on
>>> the
>>> > > panel
>>> > > > >> upon first boot. After reboot (w/o any other action) only one
>>> > > nm-applet is
>>> > > > >> shown, but the second â-icon keeps coming back.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Selecting panel preferences > Indicator applets > Preferences,
>>> > > toggling
>>> > > > >> none/on there remains only one of each, but the duplicate â-icon
>>> > > reappears
>>> > > > >> after reboot .
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Henk
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Op 25-8-2015 om 12:44 schreef Phill. Whiteside:
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> All the ISO's went on a binge after Julien had trimmed them. He
>>> was
>>> > > > >>> unsure as to what caused it and it would appear that he has
>>> still
>>> > > not to
>>> > > > >>> the bottom of it.
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> As the Beta 1's are landing, we can keep an eye out for this
>>> bug as
>>> > > we
>>> > > > >>> test them all. I didn't see it on the alternate 32 bit install
>>> last
>>> > > night.
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > JM <meets@xxxxxx>
>>> > >
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>>>
>>> --
>>> JM <meets@xxxxxx>
>>>
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