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[meets@xxxxxx]

Hi,

This isn't necessary. The patch which is in the openbox version 3.6.* git will allow to
keep python-xdg, and use -- probably fbautostart instead (very light, very small) -- which
then will be a must have. But it's yet a bit soon to talk about it, as the needed details
for it to happen are still ongoing.

As a result, Julien Lavergne will have the possibility to remove his own Lubuntu trick
for this special start feature. 

I'll let him and you informed as soon as all will be ready to be used. He might have news
from Mati75 too (the Debian packager of the Openbox program).

For now, the Lubuntu configuration tool should allow you to deactivate the startup
of the applets which show twice? 

Best regards,
Mélodie



On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:57:57 +0100
"Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Mélodie,
> 
> unfortunately asking lubuntu to remove python-xdg also will remove
> lubuntu-software-center and zeitgeist (I'm not sure of zrigeist, but LSC is
> needed !).
> 
> phillw@piglet:~$ sudo apt-get remove python-xdg
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED
>   lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-software-center python-xdg python-zeitgeist
>   zeitgeist
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> On 26 August 2015 at 11:30, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > A bug has been raised, mainly just so it has a bug [1]. After a brief
> > description it points to this mail conversation for further information.
> >
> > As some comments have not been cc'd to the mailing list and thus not
> > viewable, I've copied them below. Please use the 'Reply to All' function if
> > adding information to this mail, or use the bug!
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phill.
> > 1. https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488660
> >
> > Oh ok I see.
> >
> > The answer is this is most probably the Lubuntu setup which triggers this.
> >
> > You have the 3.5.* version of Openbox. (Not the patched 3.6.* git for
> > Mati75 at Lubuntu
> > testing).
> >
> > There is a special "Lubuntu" setup which has these two apps started with
> > the user
> > session (whatever â-applet is).
> >
> > So, there is a solution to solve it definitely, but I'm still working on
> > it with 2/3
> > other people. Then I'll get back to the Lubuntu team leader Julien about
> > it. It should
> > fix the issue.
> >
> > For now, if you remove either python-xdg from the install, or deactivate
> > the Lubuntu kick
> > in with session for these two programs you will solve it.
> >
> > (python-xdg has never been a must have with the openbox package, it's
> > optional, so if you
> > have it, programs whose desktop files are in /etc/xdg/autostart and or in
> > the user's
> > ~/.config/autostart will be started, because this is inside one of the
> > openbox files, if
> > you don't know python-xdg and no other process launches them, you don't
> > have them
> > started at all in the session, which is a problem too). As I tell you, I
> > expect to get it
> > solved by the end of the year and to be able to bring a simple and elegant
> > lasting solution.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Mélodie
> >
> > Hi Phill,
> >
> > I could not figure out which package is the culprit, so I could not file a
> > bug. I hope Mélodie will tell us. If she wants to file the bug, fine!
> > Otherwise I can do it.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio
> >
> > On 25 August 2015 at 19:50, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> melodie,
> >>
> >> the screen shots contain all three answers?...
> >>
> >> Phill.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25 August 2015 at 19:34, <meets@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I need all three answers to be able to tell you what the issue comes
> >>> from, or at least
> >>> have a fair idea about it. And I don't know which program the â-applet
> >>> relates to anyway.
> >>>
> >>> Else, have you tried to deactive their launch from within the Lubuntu
> >>> "all in one tool"
> >>> which has/used to have a "start apps with session" section?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Mélodie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:04:10 +0100
> >>> "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi Mélodie,
> >>> >
> >>> > this is the SAME Iso installed on the SAME VM twice..... This is one
> >>> messy
> >>> > bug!
> >>> >
> >>> > Install that has one network applet and no â-applet
> >>> > http://phillw.net/orig.png
> >>> >
> >>> > Install that has one network applet and two â-applets
> >>> > http://phillw.net/side.png
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> >
> >>> > Phill.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 25 August 2015 at 18:08, <meets@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Hi,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Check the followings:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > * which Openbox version does it run? (apt-cache policy openbox)
> >>> > > * is python-xdg installed?
> >>> > > * in /etc/xdg/autostart do you see the desktop files related to the
> >>> > > programs which show a
> >>> > > double icon?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Please send the answers on the same thread. (for all and any edition
> >>> in
> >>> > > which you meet
> >>> > > with the double icons issues).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Best regards,
> >>> > > Mélodie
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:54:21 +0100
> >>> > > "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > hmm..
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > confused @ phillw. Alternate 64 bit first test (entire disk) gives
> >>> one
> >>> > > > network applet and no â-applet. Then I did the next test, which is
> >>> the
> >>> > > > guided (side by side) install. I now have 1 network applet and 2
> >>> > > â-applets
> >>> > > > on that  installation. Both these situations persist as I boot
> >>> between
> >>> > > > them!!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Regards,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Phill.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On 25 August 2015 at 15:11, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > Is there a bug number yet for this?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Regards,
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Phill.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > On 25 August 2015 at 14:39, Henk Terhell <hterhell@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >> On 2015-08-25 ISO i386 desktop manual installation I saw the
> >>> nm-applet
> >>> > > > >> icon as well as the virtual keyboard icon (â)  shown twice on
> >>> the
> >>> > > panel
> >>> > > > >> upon first boot. After reboot (w/o any other action) only one
> >>> > > nm-applet is
> >>> > > > >> shown, but the second â-icon keeps coming back.
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> Selecting panel preferences > Indicator applets > Preferences,
> >>> > > toggling
> >>> > > > >> none/on there remains only one of each, but the duplicate â-icon
> >>> > > reappears
> >>> > > > >> after reboot .
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> Henk
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> Op 25-8-2015 om 12:44 schreef Phill. Whiteside:
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> All the ISO's went on a binge after Julien had trimmed them. He
> >>> was
> >>> > > > >>> unsure as to what caused it and it would appear that he has
> >>> still
> >>> > > not to
> >>> > > > >>> the bottom of it.
> >>> > > > >>>
> >>> > > > >>> As the Beta 1's are landing, we can keep an eye out for this
> >>> bug as
> >>> > > we
> >>> > > > >>> test them all. I didn't see it on the alternate 32 bit install
> >>> last
> >>> > > night.
> >>> > > > >>>
> >>> > > > >>>
> >>> > > > >>>
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > --
> >>> > > JM <meets@xxxxxx>
> >>> > >
> >>> > > --
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> JM <meets@xxxxxx>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >


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JM <meets@xxxxxx>