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[David Arnold - El Alemán <david@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

@ Raphael/OCA: I agreee totally with you. I'm a big fan of transparency and
tight monitoring as well. So far it is not easy and even less commonly
accepted on how to monitor the Issue fixing activity of the whole
ecosystem. That is bad. Transparency (as a process desgin maxime) would be
really good. There must be some reporting modules arround the web to get
sucha a functionality on the OCA page, then invite end users and potential
customers to read thos (EASY READABLE) reports and make it a marketing
instrument. Like this we probably will never have issues on that any more
in the future. Testing, and coverage are equally important arguments in a
OSS evaluation, or might be used as strong arguments in the selling
process. Look, I think from a systemic managmeent perspective and I see
some flaws in the ecosystem and try to find integral systemic solutions.
This is what I learned and what big Consulting Firms arround the world
would probably charge 1500-2500 $/day for. I feel bad on argumenting like
this. I feel like I'm communicating sometimes in a way or context, that the
ideas behind it are probably not clearly seen, so I thought probably some
context might be useful, I hope. My fault for inefficient communications
anyway ;)

@Odony: I eagerly and crtitically accompany your great work. Even if I am
critical (also in the way of expressing myself), I still share the same
vision and the same goals. With due resepct, I don't feel offended by what
you said, but I think, again, transparency is my plight. Probably, If you
can make a friendly statment towards the community anytime soon about the
actual state of things, many would be thankful, and hopefully the following
will be obsolete and just for the record:
- I signed in via the "Start Now link" on www.odoo.com the afternoon UTC-5:
Odoo logo, new variants mechanism
 - I signed in via the "Start Now link" on www.odoo.com at night UTC-5:
OpenERP logo, old variants mechanism
Probably there is still a way, that I have been confused, but if it is so,
I feel quite happy and sane having been confused ;-) - You already know,
I'm still rebellishly reluctant to some odoo way of thinking (eg. 'Naming
of "Usability" in Settings') ;) - I think it is rather rare that a newbie
shouts out that loud, before he himself feels more expert among experts and
probably becomes rutine-blinded, too. V8 anyhow will be a great product!

I just sometimes feel there is a notion of battle between Odoo (defendant)
and Community (agressor) in many ways. I might imagine you as a community
manager might have a hard time, briding this GAP and I hope you strongly
advocate a "good community" notion internally among developers. I hope
highest managment in Grand Rosiere will think alike and only speak in the
best words about community internally. If not your time might be even
harder. This is an analysis and interpretation from what I see about what
could happen internally in Odoo, and what I could imagine could be an
issue. As it is inferred based on publicly available information, it is
prone to error, as well I understand that your are not supposed to discuss
such things publically, but I as an external at least can give my opinion.
Hope this shows my motivation to identify and solve problems systemically
(the problems behind the problems), and i this time also got it right on
the relashonship layer <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-sides_model> of
communication...

Regards